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Bill: A "Free" Mordusia

Details

Submitted by[?]: Mordusian Austrian Union

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2597

Description[?]:

The human body is not some sort of vile construct, but the apex of evolution, something to be admired, not ashamed of.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:48:10, June 24, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party (UCF)
ToDebating the A "Free" Mordusia
MessageWe must oppose this as we feel it is in contradiction to the majority of Mordusian morals.

Date16:28:33, June 24, 2008 CET
FromUnion Party
ToDebating the A "Free" Mordusia
MessageWe ask both sides to lay out their arguments. We ask the FRP for a source as to their assertation, as different states have different views.

Date22:13:16, June 24, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party (UCF)
ToDebating the A "Free" Mordusia
MessageThe PP's request is perfectly legitimate:
Nudity is a certain state that is for private eyes, it must not be exhibited in public. Some people feel extremly disturbed by nudity and their number is quite large. If we compare this large amount to the tiny minority that wishes to be nude in public, the rights (to happyness) of more people would be set aside than in the curent state.

Also, exhibition of public nudity is a principal that is not permited in neither islam, christianity or judaism which are the three largest religions in our country (OOC: see wiki page). Again the morals and values of these people are being set aside, the minority must not be treated any better, or worse than the majority.

Finally there is the very large risk that parents be extremly unwilling to let their children watch pornography, and therefore it's mere avaivability is a bad thing.

Date22:49:16, June 24, 2008 CET
FromMordusian Austrian Union
ToDebating the A "Free" Mordusia
MessageThe FRP must understand that democracy needs to be more than two wolves and a sheep deciding on what is for dinner. Liberty is not something that can fall at the whims of the majority -- at its heart, a truly free society must be one that protects minority rights.

The MAU does not feel that the government needs to tell people that nudity would not be allowed -- we would like to remind the FRP that there is no "right to not be offended." If a person does not feel comfortable allowing themselves to walk naked in public, then they won't. Liberty must be based on tolerance, and the exposure of the human body is hardly encroaching on someone's right to practice their religion.

As for allowing children to see sexual content on the television, if the parents do not wish it, they are perfectly capable of not allowing their children to watch it, either by monitoring their TV watching, or acquiring a channel-limiter. The government is not supposed to be a parent, either by setting these sorts of trivial rules, or by providing a wallet for people to go to. The government is here for the sole purpose of securing the blessings of liberty for its people.

Date23:06:58, June 24, 2008 CET
FromUnion Party
ToDebating the A "Free" Mordusia
MessageTolerance is no longer tolerance if it is condemned by moral and natural law. Although we are progressives, we also believe in divine law, and the law of God must come before the laws and beliefs of man.

Date00:18:48, June 25, 2008 CET
FromChristian Democrats Union
ToDebating the A "Free" Mordusia
MessageWe are undecided on articles 1 & 3, as we do not see nudity itself as a vile sin, but the sexual gratification that comes through it. We are strongly opposed to article 2 and must reject the bill.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 64

no
     

Total Seats: 137

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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