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Bill: Freedom of Religious Education (2601)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Normand Pluralist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2601
Description[?]:
| We should cease the curtailing of religious freedom in Sekowo. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:03:33, July 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | Honestly, how does making sure they need to get the same grades as the other schools curtial the relgion 0_o |
| Date | 20:17:14, July 03, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | Well currently we have established that workforce testing trumps standardized testing, but in essence I'm in full agreement with IMF. That's OOC, but applies to IC as well. Depends how we want to define "regulation". Are we mandating what can and cannot be taught, religion wise? Or are we just saying "All students must meet minimum academic progress by certain grade levels, and display at least average efficiency in said workplace related tasks" you know? No regulation on religion, totally agree. No regulation on outcome, totally opposed. |
| Date | 20:28:15, July 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | I believe this is the academic aheivment regulation. IE, all students have to pass level whatever math. |
| Date | 23:25:11, July 03, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | Religious schools, if they are to be ACCREDITED, would still have to demonstrate learning on par with non-religious schools, and follow the same standards. If they are not accredited then they are not kept to any standards, but their "degrees" would mean nothing in a legal sense. |
| Date | 00:22:41, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | And that would be a waste of time and ruin people's lives, hence why we make sure in advance they are good enough. |
| Date | 05:02:36, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | Hardly a waste of time. All sorts of scientific discoveries have been shared and have been coming out of madrasas for centuries, when they fail to meet modern public school regulations. |
| Date | 08:09:38, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | Accredited schools are what are most likely to be recognized by the workforce. If we cannot guarantee at least a minimum level of commonality with their state-sponsored cousins, then we should not allow those schools to exist. In short, if they are not regulated to ensure accreditation, then the SIP is wary to support. |
| Date | 08:17:10, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | Why should we not allow such schools to exist if they serve a valuable community function? Additionally, the previous law does not allow for religious schools to simply meet accreditation standards, but piles many additional regulations on them which secular schools are not subject to. |
| Date | 08:25:43, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | We would much prefer that all schools have to meet the same standards of education... Beyond that point, what the school teaches on the side is of no real importance to the SIP. If such a bill is proposed ((as in, do some RP legwork, gents!)) then the SIP will provide it's support. |
| Date | 14:49:20, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | "We would much prefer that all schools have to meet the same standards of education... Beyond that point, what the school teaches on the side is of no real importance to the SIP." we feel this is what the current law is. |
| Date | 19:07:40, July 04, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Religious Education (2601) |
| Message | The current law applies additional "strict regulations" to religious schools beyond what is normally required for secular schools in Sekowo. This bill would equalize things. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 191 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 263 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 146 |
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