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Bill: NF Proactive Health Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nasjonal Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2605
Description[?]:
| Article 1 is to reduce unmonitored exposure of children to alcohol. We do not oppose the rights of parents to serve their children alcohol within the home such as a glass of wine with dinner. Moderate alcohol exposure lessens the excitement and potential for overdoing it with the coming of legal age. Articles 2 & 3 are basic common sense and will help promote a healthy nation whilst reducing the load on our health and crime prevention services. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverage regulations are not imposed by the government.
Current: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased and consumed anywhere, but only by adults.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, but consumed by anyone.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Current: All naturally occurring drugs are legal.
Proposed: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Current: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: The sale of tobacco products is prohibited.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:41:30, July 12, 2008 CET | From |  Nasjonal Front | To | Debating the NF Proactive Health Act |
| Message | Article 1 is to reduce unmonitored exposure of children to alcohol. We do not oppose the rights of parents to serve their children alcohol within the home such as a glass of wine with dinner. Moderate alcohol exposure lessens the excitement and potential for overdoing it with the coming of legal age. Articles 2 & 3 are basic common sense and will help promote a healthy nation whilst reducing the load on our health and crime prevention services. |
| Date | 10:12:28, July 12, 2008 CET | From | Hete Brorskap | To | Debating the NF Proactive Health Act |
| Message | We are sympathetic towards Articles 1 and 2, but oppose Article 3. The government shouldn't interfere with the freedom of the people to smoke tobacco. Besides, tobacco use is so widespread that outlawing it would only create a massive black market which could end up fuelling organised crime. Alf Borghild (Chief Gothi of the Hete Brorskap) |
| Date | 17:42:18, July 12, 2008 CET | From | Nasjonal Front | To | Debating the NF Proactive Health Act |
| Message | OOC: Since it is impossible for us to force smokers to pay for their otherwise free state healthcare we therefor wish to ban the sale of tobacco and stamp out smoking instead. If people choose to smoke and damage their health, they should not expect the State and thusly non-smoking taxpayers to finance their healthcare thereafter. |
| Date | 23:11:33, July 12, 2008 CET | From | Hete Brorskap | To | Debating the NF Proactive Health Act |
| Message | It is a misconception that smokers put a greater strain on the health service than non-smokers. i) Smokers contribute to the treasure significantly through the taxes they pay on cigarettes. Presuming cigarettes are classed as a luxury good, this tax is 50% of the price in Kazulia. ii) The cost any person's maladies place on the health service depends on how long they last and how expensive they are to treat. A smoker who works and pays taxes all his life and then dies of a stroke at age 65 is, economically speaking, giving the treasury a good deal. By contrast, somebody with a more health-conscious lifestyle who lives to 100 and needs extensive nursing care is going to cost the health service quite a lot. Alf Borghild (Chief Gothi of the Hete Brorskap) |
| Date | 02:33:19, July 13, 2008 CET | From | Demokratisk Pacifist Partiet | To | Debating the NF Proactive Health Act |
| Message | Making recreational drugs and tobacco illegal will only create black markets that will fund organized crime, and cause even more crime as addicts start stealing to support their(now much more expensive due to the drug dealers controlling the market) habits. This will also create new problems for our healtcare system because drug users will be forced to share needles, they'll have no option but to take drugs tainted with chemicals even more harmful than the drug itself , and they'll be reluctant to seek treatment for their addictions because of the stigma attatched to them. Overall, I fail to see how this would be better than the current situation. People won't stop doing things simply because they're illegal, and in cases like this a ban only makes things worse. |
| Date | 23:26:22, July 13, 2008 CET | From | Nasjonal Front | To | Debating the NF Proactive Health Act |
| Message | Our view would be that the health system refuse to treat smokers or drug users entirely. They make their choices and must live with the consequences. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 118 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 265 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 117 |
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