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Bill: Colonization
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Green Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2608
Description[?]:
Just throwing this out there - maybe we could do some colonization to celebrate our communism? I made this neat little map with a spot for a colony. I have no idea whether it's taken or not, but I do know we may be contested if we attempt to colonize. It will make for interesting roleplay, especially if we can figure out how to do it right. I gave the little islands names after our territories, and figured we'd just call it something like New Ikradon if we decide to do it. I'm open for name and location suggestions if you're interested.
Map: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/lemonlover/untitled.png
Decision: Foreign Minister offers to purchase the islands from Beiteynu. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:39:18, July 16, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | Shouldn't it be named after our glorious leaders? Like Loriya and one after the head of PLF?
OOC: Is colonization even doable? |
| Date | 23:09:56, July 16, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | That would be acceptable.
OOC: As far as rp goes, it has been done. It seems to be very difficult for nations to agree on who owns what and how, but if we work at it we could easily get ourselves a colony. This one is located on Squibble, and from what I can gather no one has rule over it yet. |
| Date | 23:17:50, July 16, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | OOC: But is it possible to get those territories, or is it only RP-wise? |
| Date | 23:41:26, July 16, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | OOC: I think we can actually get them. Not 100% sure, but if it is agreed upon and no one contests us, I think the mods allow it. |
| Date | 23:46:38, July 16, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | OOC: It appears I was wrong. We'd need to buy the islands from Beitnu, they have them already. I wonder if they'd sell...
IC: It appears the selected colonies will need to be purchased. Are we still interested? |
| Date | 00:20:20, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | I would assume they are relatively uninhabited. They would thrive under a worker's society, I believe. |
| Date | 01:13:48, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | That would be fun. If we make an offer to Beitnu, we need to come up with a price. How much do two islands cost? |
| Date | 01:30:50, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | Moneys... lot of moneys. But if the holiday suggestion holds, we could use it as a project and take the money from our budget for tourism. |
| Date | 01:33:30, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | That would be appropriate. We could form a party coalition to oversee the purchase, and later the government of the islands. Someone should also get in contact with Beiteynu (I've been misspelling it) and ask how much they would want for the two small islands south of Squibble. There is still a chance that they would not wish to sell, however. If they are willing to sell, we can debate pricing and decide on names. |
| Date | 02:06:57, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | It's good to have you on board. I believe it would be best for a member of Red Dawn, maybe the First Comrade, to contact Beiteynu with our offer. |
| Date | 02:27:04, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Socialist Workers of Ikradon | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | For names, Arbeider Island and Natie Island. Arbeider means 'worker' in Dutch (which our culture is loosely based of) and Natie means 'nation'. |
| Date | 02:27:08, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | I think it would seem more important if the First Comrade led the bargaining. |
| Date | 02:33:53, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Socialist Workers of Ikradon | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | I suppose you're right, especially if the Foreign minister is named Mr. Foreigner. Might kind of dissuade them a bit ;) |
| Date | 02:54:50, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | Well, since this was the idea of the Social Green Party, we'd like to name the smaller island after our founder, to be called Wheitra. If no one else wants that, we can name them after important Ikradonian political figures. For the whole colony, Neu Ikradon has a nice ring. |
| Date | 02:58:52, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | Do you have any ideas for the name of a central city on the colony? |
| Date | 13:19:19, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | Name the city Loriya, one of the islanids Wheitra and the other Arbeider Island - if you're so inclined. |
| Date | 15:51:04, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | That sounds good. Red Dawn, would a member of your party be willing to contact Beiteynu? |
| Date | 17:41:10, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | We are, though in all honesty sending our foreign minister seems a tad more prudent. |
| Date | 18:16:56, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | It does. That reminds me, with the new parties it seems that we need a new cabinet to reflect all the communist parties. |
| Date | 20:11:30, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | I believe we can. We have enough excess cash from our glorious workers that we can afford to buy them a decent vacation. We just need someone to put forth the effort and contact the Beitneynuese government. |
| Date | 20:44:09, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | OOC: This is only roleplaying wise, or can we actually get those islands as our provinces in-game? |
| Date | 23:05:29, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | OOC: They have maps with who-owns-what, so it's a bit of both. We don't get any extra in-game benefits from them, but the rest of Terra recognises we do have them. |
| Date | 23:31:37, July 17, 2008 CET |
From | Social Green Party | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | On the forums. Go to General Discussion, and there should be a thread about Colonies. Then look at the last page. |
| Date | 15:23:41, July 18, 2008 CET |
From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Colonization | | Message | Well, we approve of the purchase in any case. |
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