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Bill: Intelligence Agencies

Details

Submitted by[?]: Federal Republican Party (UCF)

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2611

Description[?]:

Our intelligence agencies would be the following:

External Security:
SOCOM, Special Opperatins Command - counter terrorism and intellignece abroad (department of deffense)
FCCA, Foreign Counterintelligence and Counterterrorism Agency - civilian counter intelligence (dod)

Internal Security:
DISS, Domestic Intelligence and Security Service - civilian domestic counter terrorism and intelligence (department of interior)
MCA, Military Counterintelligence Agency - same as DISS instead military (dod)


Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date09:25:14, July 22, 2008 CET
FromMordusian Austrian Union
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageHmmm....

I disagree with the FBI thing. This is an intelligence service, not a police force. National police work should not in any way be mixed with the intelligence network.

I don't like the foreign one. not only because I despise the DHS and all it stands for, but the DHS focuses on...well, HOMELAND security -- i.e. it's a domestic thing. I'd personally prefer something simple, like Foreign Intelligence Directorate, or something (That, and I like the soviet-style "directorate," it sounds cooler ;) ).

Domestic... not sure on that one. It's half past 3 AM, so my creativity drive isn't functioning up to par.

Date15:43:45, July 22, 2008 CET
FromAlliance Res Publica (UCF)
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageThe Bureau of Interventionist Expansion(BIE) jk jk

Foreign Operations Ministry(FOM)
Federal Special Forces(FSF)

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And then Intelligence

Information Collection Service (ICS)
Monitoring and Planning Agency (MPA)


Just a few ideas.

Date02:22:50, July 23, 2008 CET
FromMordusian Union of Liberty
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageFor the military I believe we should use the following:
Military Intelligence Service (MIS):
Special Operations Command (SOCOM)
Military Counterintelligence Agency (MCA)

and for civillian intelligence:
Domestic Intelligence and Security Service (DISS)
Foreign Intelligence Administration (FIA)


Date05:30:53, July 23, 2008 CET
FromMordusian Austrian Union
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageForeign Undercover Counterintelligence Kommisariat

Date11:00:23, July 23, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party (UCF)
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageI suggest for our foreign agencies to be under the command of the department of defense (so we dont need to increase foreign funding) and to be called: Special Operations Command (SOCOM) (OOC: great thinking I love the name) be for the military and the Foreign Counterintelligence and Counterterrorism Agency be for "civilian" purposes. For a matter of practicality, they should both be under the jurisdiction of the defense ministry.

For the internal security Military Counterintelligence Agency (MCA) for the military and Domestic Intelligence and Security Force (DISS) for civilian purposes. We propose the MCA be with the department of defense and the DISS be under the department of internal affairs.

Date19:49:49, July 23, 2008 CET
FromAlliance Res Publica (UCF)
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageOkay, FRP, can I get a chart of what you were saying? lol

DEFENCE MINISTRY:
-SOCOM : Responsible for Covert Military Operations and Intelligence Gathering Abroad
-FCCA : Intelligence Gathering and Counter-Terrorism for Domestic Matters
-MCA : Internal Security?

INTERNAL AFFAIRS:
-DISS : Internal Security?

Bascially, I need to know the distinguishing between the FCCA, MCA, and DISS. I think there should be a joint DISS between the Defence and Internal Affairs, but that Internal Affairs should have the last say.

Date07:52:58, July 24, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party (UCF)
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageMCA is military internal security and DISS is civilian

Date18:22:03, July 24, 2008 CET
FromAlliance Res Publica (UCF)
ToDebating the Intelligence Agencies
MessageOk,I am fine with these names and organizations.

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