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Bill: Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610
Details
Submitted by[?]: Revolutionary Freedom Party -- KEG SLAM
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2613
Description[?]:
| We have attempted to avoid this option. We have dismissed this option before, on the simple hope, not even belief, but hope, that ILDA would follow the rules. He is fully aware of them. He breaks the Kalistan house rules constantly. He goes back on his word constantly. And what is his explanation/excuse? He claims that as a right winger, it is morally allowable for him to break his word. He claims he just doesn't have to follow the agreements that everyone else does. Okay, ILDA, you bring the "Adult Age" bill to vote, I bring this to vote. You delete that one, I delete this one. All I am asking is that you *keep your word* and *play by the rules*. Why is that so hard for you? |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:30:03, July 22, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | Politely point out where ILDA agreed to keep his word and abide by this agreement, if you will please, R&FP? |
| Date | 23:19:34, July 22, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Communists Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | Why???? I wrote there, that after that bill pass, the treat will be cancelled. So you have any reason to do it. Or you want to blackmail me??? |
| Date | 23:36:50, July 22, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | I would like to see this agreement, before I agree to support anything. |
| Date | 23:38:37, July 22, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Communists Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | By the way, I follow the rules. But you want make everything to stop talking about the adult age. Why is it too hard for you to understand that I want to cancel the agreement and after that I wan to vote about the adult age bill. I wanted to make it in one bill, but it is impossible. So I made another, where I want to cancel it. If it pass, this rule will be cancelled. |
| Date | 12:08:53, July 23, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary Freedom Party -- KEG SLAM | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | I would re-post hte agreement. I would be willing to even re-examine the agreement, or bring it back up to see what SPoK feels about it. I would be willing to go through the Constitutional Court, IC, to hash out the details. However: 1) I seriously doubt this would solve the problem of ILDA refusing to follow agreements. 2) I really don't see why I should back down on this. If we say that he doesn't have to follow the rules, why should any of us follow the rules? Why should we even RP at all? Why have a constitutional court? Why even ever negotiate on a bill? How would any of us trust any of us to keep to agreements? And why should ILDA be able to say, "You can't make me follow the rules," but I follow the rules, and get treated like dirt for it? |
| Date | 13:44:12, July 23, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | Is the rules that nobody can even discuss the age of adults? |
| Date | 20:33:59, July 23, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary Freedom Party -- KEG SLAM | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | The current rule is a house rule or gentleman's agreement that we don't bring up the issue, because of the wall-to-wall arguements it starts. Secondly I will be blunt: If anyone calls me a pedophile again, I will go to the mods. I will not allow myself to be slandered. But the question I still want to know is, what makes ILDA so special that he doesn't have to follow the agreements? We can have a constitutional court decision, we can pass a resolution by 2/3, we can all agree on something, and he can basically say, "I don't have to follow it if I don't want to." How is that fair, and why should he be rewarded for acting in this manner? |
| Date | 10:10:59, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Communists Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | But there exist no rules that prohibit me to cancel an agreement and you can propose any agreement again. You have right to do it. I didn't call you a paedophile. I was talking about paedophiles in Kalistan. I follow the agreements. Why do you think that I don't follow agreements? The first time I made a mistake, but now I do it good way. So you only don't want to speak about another adult age. That is whole problem. |
| Date | 19:02:54, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary Freedom Party -- KEG SLAM | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | Because it's going to start another argument! Look, it has. And, BTW, I had forgotten that one, but "I decided after I agreed that I didn't want to agree, so I made a mistake" is not a valid reason to break your word. |
| Date | 21:10:35, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Communists Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Resolution to Discussion the Censure of Independant Liberal Democratic Action of 2610 |
| Message | What is it? I can't where find an information about that agreement. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 163 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 463 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 124 |
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