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Bill: Income tax proposal of September 2612

Details

Submitted by[?]: Judicial Union Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2614

Description[?]:

The Judicial Union Party propose to adjust the government's income tax policy to better address the economic situation of the United Tribes of Tukarali.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:37:52, July 28, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageWe propose to increase income tax rates, in order to allow us to increase spending on defence, and other essential ministries. The world is going through a difficult time. We have Aldegar to the south preparing for international war, and Baltusia and Valruzia may very well be doing the same. We can no longer sit idly by. We must be read to defend ourselves.

Thus these measures are only temporary, until the global climate cools (metaphorically, not in terms of global climate change). But for now, we must take action.

Date05:48:55, July 28, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageIn addition, our economy has been undergoing somewhat of a slowdown recently, which has been up to now unaddressed. It is not constructive to blame any particular recent Minister of Finance for the past two terms, so we will not do so.

Economic slowdown calls for an injection of government funds. This increase in tax, if put back into the economy as government spending, will restart our economy. We can go back to being very rich again, instead of just quite wealthy.

Date13:26:14, July 28, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageNo.

Date13:26:59, July 28, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageWhy should business owners who invest their profits to better their lives (which they can and should do) be punished for being successful by paying 50% taxes? No.

Date13:27:24, July 28, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageUnlike you, we care about the economy and of the survival of our nation.

Date13:37:57, July 28, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageUnlike you, we want our people to be able to live decent lives and not tax them out of it.

Date13:45:19, July 28, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageActually, even the highest earners in our nation (those earning around 560,000) will only pay around 42% tax on their gross income.

Date14:57:41, July 28, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageNot according to this tax bracket.

Date23:20:18, July 28, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageOnly income over 180000 will be taxed at 50%. Income below that is taxed lower depending on the brackets. Nobody is actually paying 50% of their income in tax.

Date23:23:39, July 28, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Graenix Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageThat 50% is seriously sticking out to me. I'll have to actually think about this one.

Date00:06:47, July 29, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageAs liberty said...why should successful businesses who are sole proprietorships pay high taxes?

Date06:28:52, July 29, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageBecause the rich have more money to spend, and can contribute more to the country. This isn't a debate about flat vs progressive taxation.

Date12:06:53, July 29, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
MessageNo one was trying to turn that into a debate. Actually no one brought that up.

Date12:12:59, July 29, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of September 2612
Message"Why should business owners who invest their profits to better their lives (which they can and should do) be punished for being successful by paying 50% taxes?" and "why should successful businesses who are sole proprietorships pay high taxes?"
Those are coming quite close to trying to argue against a progressive tax.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 267

no
  

Total Seats: 114

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Total Seats: 119


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