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Bill: Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Holy Eliyahu Confession
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2614
Description[?]:
| A bill to bring Lodamun up to the standards necessary to join the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: No refugees are allowed to enter the country.
Current: All refugees are welcome but no financial aid is given to them.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order.
Current: The nation imposes no border controls on visitors.
Proposed: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:54:50, July 29, 2008 CET | From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | Two of our nations direct neighbors, and three of the major nations of this continent have already adopted this treaty, which will doubtlessly improve the economy of Lodamun. In order to ratify it however, these two laws must be modified to fit the article requirements. I understand that these two points are major concerns of the parties of Lodamun, particularly because I worked so hard to change the laws regarding Article 1. Now rather than considering these issues on their individual merit, consider the implications of not accepting them. The benefits of accepting these measures to increase trade and relations with our neighbors far outweighs any other concern. Therefore I appeal to the members here to set aside their differences and pass this Act. |
| Date | 07:58:14, July 29, 2008 CET | From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | for the record, in good faith, im leaving this open to debate. if it is clear a majority of this body has no interest in the Union I wont even bother putting it to a vote, although it would be an absolute waste. |
| Date | 15:49:02, July 29, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | we in the LLP have no interest to join the union. But as for the proposels we support Article 2, but we do not support article 1 |
| Date | 19:53:42, July 29, 2008 CET | From | Working Families Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | The Working Families Party would be willing to support this. |
| Date | 19:58:25, July 29, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | We do not support either article. We also do not support joining the Union. We have plenty of free trade agreements already. |
| Date | 20:12:20, July 29, 2008 CET | From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | perhaps the Liberals should consider that their beloved Isolationist tendencies may not in fact keep Lodamun safe as a nation, and that without looking for allies and strong trade partners Lodamun may yet be dragged into conflict throughout the world. |
| Date | 20:17:47, July 29, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | We feel the necessity of informing the LRNP about our allies throughout the world. Our Former Foreign Affairs Minister, Rich Reynolds, negotiated several free trade agreements as well as bringing new allies to Lodamun. We can assure that we are very well protected. |
| Date | 20:18:46, July 29, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | We are already members of the Seleya Free Trade Zone:http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=5 |
| Date | 21:07:16, July 29, 2008 CET | From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | yes, and the members of the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union are not members of the Seleya Free Trade Zone, so it only makes sense as far as im concerned for us to expand our trade into their markets by ratification of this treaty. |
| Date | 21:19:02, July 29, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | If it was only a free trade agreement, we would support but because it has binding laws, which we oppose, we will not support. |
| Date | 21:28:22, July 30, 2008 CET | From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | we intend to put this to a vote before the end of this parliament. |
| Date | 00:13:21, July 31, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | Parliament Session? |
| Date | 06:05:27, July 31, 2008 CET | From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | Yes sir. ooc: no... we plan on dissolving parliament. |
| Date | 13:59:23, July 31, 2008 CET | From | Democrats | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | We have complete faith in the aims of our Foreign Minister, and urge the government to back. |
| Date | 20:29:16, July 31, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Seleyan Trade and Tourism Union Admission Act |
| Message | It is not about faith on our Foreign Affairs Minister, it is about what we believe is right or wrong, good or bad. We are sure that the Foreign Affairs Minister wants what is best for our country in his own way, we want what's best for our country on our own way. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 74 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 35 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 41 |
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