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Bill: Ratification of the CIS Community Treaty
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Liberal Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2119
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the CIS Community Treaty. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:56:52, September 28, 2005 CET |
From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the CIS Community Treaty | | Message | Now that ratification has been implemented, we ask that the Parliament of Telamon ratify the CIS Treaty in order to formally confirm our membership of the Community of International States (CIS) |
| Date | 17:55:44, September 28, 2005 CET |
From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the CIS Community Treaty | | Message | All decisions by unanimous vote? So one nation can block the general will? And then to say that it promotes democracy... Good idea in principle, but we see it as a nightmare when anything needs done |
| Date | 09:38:41, September 29, 2005 CET |
From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the CIS Community Treaty | | Message | The problem was how to maintain the sovereignty of nations and given that no major policy decisions can be made in particracy without them being passed by the legislatures of countries then it seemed ok to have decisions by unanimous vote. I understand your concerns and would myself have preferred it to be simply by majority, but in order to get nations to join i hade to change it to unanimity.
If i could also point out that i do not anticipate that this will be the only security treaty that we enter into - as Foreign Minister, i am open to joining or indeed creating a much stronger/smaller collecitve security agreement with some countries. The CIS is basically like a Particracy UN (though with elements of other orgs as well). The constitution does allow for changes to be made and i am confident that we may be able to change it to a majority vote once people realise that unanimity is not good. it is also perfectly possible that the Council could change the organisation in a number of ways to assist in decision making. |
| Date | 05:33:26, September 30, 2005 CET |
From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the CIS Community Treaty | | Message | We offer reluctant support, if only because of it's other points, we would like the foreign ministry to begin research into possible members of a defensive alliance as well. |
| Date | 17:24:59, September 30, 2005 CET |
From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the CIS Community Treaty | | Message | As Foreign Minister i shall certainly look into other possibilities for a defensive alliance - i did a while ago send messages to our neighbours on the island of Makon, namely Hutori and Davostan about a non agression pact, but they did not show any interest. However i;m sure that we wil be able to find other nations to enter into a full alliance with. |
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