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Bill: Power to the people...
Details
Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2616
Description[?]:
| ...who were elected by the people! We propose ensuring democratic accountability is restored, by removing trivial or non-state issues from Central government, leaving them free to deal with national issues. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: All advertising is permitted.
Current: All advertising is permitted.
Proposed: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: All banks are privately owned.
Current: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Proposed: The government operates large, national banks, but small community based private banks are allowed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation can only use chemical or biological weapons on non-civilan areas.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Energy regulation.
Old value:: Energy is provided by nationalised companies.
Current: Energy is provided by private companies but the prices they can charge are regulated.
Proposed: Energy provision is left to local governments.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Current: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Proposed: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Appointments and requirements for government employees.
Old value:: Government employees are selected and appointed in a political way.
Current: All government employees have to promise political independence.
Proposed: All government employees have to promise political independence.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Current: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Current: The use of land mines is allowed.
Proposed: The use of land mines is allowed.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The appointment of mayors.
Old value:: The municipal councils exercise mayoral powers.
Current: Citizens elect their mayor directly in a local election.
Proposed: Citizens elect their mayor directly in a local election.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships and prosecute those who pursue a polygamous lifestyle.
Current: There is no explicit government policy on polygamy.
Proposed: Polygamous marriages are accorded equal recognition to monogamous marriages.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the stock exchange(s).
Old value:: Stock exchanges are allowed and are unregulated.
Current: Stock exchanges are allowed but are regulated.
Proposed: The government owns the stock exchange(s).
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding regulation of video games.
Old value:: The government does not regulate video games.
Current: The government does not maintain laws as to age limitation for purchasing video games, although it does require a content rating to be clearly displayed on the box.
Proposed: The government maintains strict age limitation laws that require proof of age before sales of video games may be made.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:45:44, August 01, 2008 CET | From | Spenocratic Party | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | We agreed with half of the articles, but 9 kinda tipped it towards no. |
| Date | 21:17:10, August 01, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | Some excellent proposals... and some we'd really rather not touch. Oy. We'll have to deliberate this and come back to it. |
| Date | 22:06:34, August 01, 2008 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | Spenocrats: you're happy to change "The nation can only use Chemical or Biological weapons on non-civillan areas" to "The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.", allowing us to use chemical weapons on civilians, but you get all het up over allowing people to have multiple loving relationships? Weird. AMSuD: If there are just one or two that stick in your collective craws, we can negotiate support for an immediate repeal? |
| Date | 23:38:08, August 01, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | "Article 1 is about irrelevent to us. We don't care if mayoral powers are granted by the citizens, the councils, the Head of State, or the Easter Bunny. Just so long as someone is filling an office at a local level that is answerable to the central government, and that can demand accountability FROM the central government. Article 2 is a bit of a problem - what it does is make the independent province of Meria disproportionately powerful. Which is GOOD - for Merians. But sucks for the universal policies of Likatonia. Article 3 seems retrogressive to us. We'd sooner see such weapons disposed of completely - and this just seems to be removing even more accountability. Article 4, similarly, seems to be encouraging a certain type of militancy... almost... a viciousness? Defense is one thing, this seems to be erring into the territory of deliberate harm. Article 5 seems fair. We're honestly about sick of the false claims and ridiculous flashing-lights-and-loud-noises approach we see so much of in modern Likatonian advertising. Some control would be nice. Article 6 is half-hearted... a bit of an improvement, but not removing the threat of compulsion. Article 7 is one of the times we don't believe that government has a pressing need to be directly involved. We're indifferent. Article 8 works for us. We'd happily vote for that. Article 9 seems to set up a media discrepancy. A movie can be rated 'adult' but the actual LAW doesn't stop anyone buying it - only the established practises of the merchants. To set an actual LAW on computer games seems discriminatory. Article 10 is a step in the right direction. Strategic crops being guaranteed = a good thing. Article 11 is totally agreeable to us, under the right circumstances. If we can't collectivise farming,we should at least split the bigger franchises into units that any worker can apply for. Article 12 is excellent. Polygamy or monogamy - neither has any place having laws made to prohibit. In our opinion, so long as both (all) individuals are legally consenting, we don't care if it's boys or girls, or how many of each. So - overall a very mixed bag. The military ones are our main headache, and we can't guarantee overturning those, because most of the new parties in the Interloper Regime are pro-massacre." Avar Akaad Avara Immeressen, direct response to the Golden Sun. |
| Date | 05:20:37, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Red Tory Party | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | What a wonderful assortment of completely unrelated bills. But, we shall have to vote against, for we, are a party of reason. |
| Date | 14:09:58, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | Revised |
| Date | 20:23:30, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Red Tory Party | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | So many problems with this proposal... So much easier to just say no :) |
| Date | 23:23:02, August 02, 2008 CET | From | Traditional Conservative Party | To | Debating the Power to the people... |
| Message | We agree with most of the articles in this bill, and strongly agree with the local sentiment given in it, however, there are certian ones that we strongly disagree with that force us to vote no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 42 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 261 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 363 |
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