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Bill: Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618
Details
Submitted by[?]: Holy Eliyahu Confession
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2619
Description[?]:
| The Lodamun Christian Democratic Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Republics of Lodamun. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 500,000,000 LOD | 250,000,000 LOD | 400,000,000 LOD |
| Foreign Affairs | 4,000,000,000 LOD | 3,000,000,000 LOD | 3,000,000,000 LOD |
| Internal Affairs | 6,000,000,000 LOD | 4,000,000,000 LOD | 3,750,000,000 LOD |
| Finance | 1,500,000,000 LOD | 800,000,000 LOD | 800,000,000 LOD |
| Defence | 11,500,000,000 LOD | 52,000,000,000 LOD | 44,000,000,000 LOD |
| Justice | 5,500,000,000 LOD | 2,500,000,000 LOD | 2,500,000,000 LOD |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 7,500,000,000 LOD | 3,000,000,000 LOD | 2,250,000,000 LOD |
| Health and Social Services | 20,000,000,000 LOD | 10,000,000,000 LOD | 22,000,000,000 LOD |
| Education and Culture | 17,500,000,000 LOD | 10,000,000,000 LOD | 30,000,000,000 LOD |
| Science and Technology | 2,000,000,000 LOD | 11,000,000,000 LOD | 10,000,000,000 LOD |
| Food and Agriculture | 5,000,000,000 LOD | 2,800,000,000 LOD | 2,800,000,000 LOD |
| Environment and Tourism | 500,000,000 LOD | 7,000,000,000 LOD | 6,500,000,000 LOD |
| Trade and Industry | 5,500,000,000 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD |
| Total | 87,000,000,000 LOD | 107,350,000,000 LOD | 129,000,000,000 LOD |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:46:42, August 09, 2008 CET |
From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618 | | Message | as our shadow budget and shadow tax proposal shows, more restrained spending and moderate tax increases can fund the expansion of the state into heath, education, and social service sectors without harming the economy. |
| Date | 17:18:56, August 09, 2008 CET |
From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618 | | Message | we proposed tripping education funding. I'd hardly call that too small. If you want to drastically increase spending, you should consider cutting other costs before just trying to pass everything on the people.
Tax and spend is a strategy for disaster. |
| Date | 03:56:50, August 10, 2008 CET |
From | Collectivist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618 | | Message | Generally I think the coalition in power believes in tax and spend, so the Christian Democrats will have to expect that that will be part of our agenda. We will try to be reasonable and will take advice from the Christian Democrats, but we do not see the need for any cuts in spending at the moment. The hikes in education and HHS spending are admirable in this budget, but cuts elsewhere will force us to vote no. |
| Date | 06:04:15, August 10, 2008 CET |
From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618 | | Message | Our defense budget is still bloated from overcommitments made by the Liberals. I strongly encourage the Collectivists to make it clear that they will not be sucked into such disastrous spending mistakes. Financially i think we can easily reconcile the desire of the Collectivists to support greater social welfare and still keep taxes within reason for all citizens if we show some level of restraint in how much we commit to spending in other sectors. |
| Date | 07:40:17, August 10, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618 | | Message | If you are going to make any statements, please do some research. The commitments we have are commitments by the Government of the United Republics of Lodamun. All the Defense Contracts were passed, democratically, by Parliament and we will certainly honor those contracts. We hope you understand the meaning of a contract. We received the equipment already, we must pay for them.
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| Date | 19:23:27, August 10, 2008 CET |
From | Holy Eliyahu Confession | To | Debating the Shadow Budget proposal of October 2618 | | Message | Fine, then cut troop levels. The point is that your governance has been marked by pouring money into defense and aggressive policies which make us far more insecure than cutting our defense to a maintainable level ever will. Other parties voted for those increases, but your party is the only ones that are still around and since you proposed them you are accountable for them. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 26 |
| no | Total Seats: 72 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 21 |
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