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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of April 2619
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federation Aldegarian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2619
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Zoroastrian People's Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Party of the Terravore
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Party of the Terravore
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Green Party of Aldegar
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Pantheism Capitalistic Party UCF
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Green Party of Aldegar
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Zoroastrian People's Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Conservative Liberalism Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Federation Aldegarian Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Federation Aldegarian Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Pantheism Capitalistic Party UCF
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Democratic Unity Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Green Party of Aldegar
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:53:23, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | Where are we? You include parties smaller than us and you don't include us? What have we done? |
| Date | 19:41:39, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Federation Aldegarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | nothing, and that's the reason |
| Date | 20:41:54, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | Could you elaborate a little more? |
| Date | 21:48:57, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Liberalism Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | They don't like you really much, PAP. |
| Date | 23:34:56, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Zoroastrian People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | Putting together a coalition is tough. Not only do you have to give everyone something they want but everyone proposed has to agree to it and vote for it. While sometimes offering more parties is an asset, sometimes you have more luck with fewer. |
| Date | 00:29:11, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | Well I would like to hear it more from them. |
| Date | 04:27:44, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Federation Aldegarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | ditto, plus we only see progress promised, not made when PAP was in power. nevertheless, rightists rule the cabinet now. thank you for your 'strong' support PAP |
| Date | 04:46:26, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Zoroastrian People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | Our party has traditionally been on the center of Aldegarian politics. Particularly on issues centered around economic issues. We have and will continue to be willing to work with anyone. We're just sadden that with the death of the Social Democratic Party that there is a vacuum on the left of those willing to stand up and defend the monarchy. Those voters on the left have been abandoned and no doubt accounts for the recent volatility in todays Aldegar. |
| Date | 05:28:39, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | Progress promised? During our time as the largest party the monarchy was abolished, our participation in the International Monarchists Treaty was withdrawn, about 19 bills proposed by us were passed, cabinet proposals we made THAT YOU VOTE YES TOO, as well as not being in government, and the fact you agreed with us back then on those things about 70% of the time; I know I checked. So it makes no sense for you to step in and say we only give promises? It just so happens that you are trying to make an enemy out of this and you are desperately trying to cross a point of no turning back with me. And before you blame ME for your cabinet proposal not passing, how about you introduce a fair proposal before every blaming anyone else here AGAIN. Oh and we were never "in power" we were the largest party and we were only in the cabinet for I think it was like 3 months. So check your sources MLP and when you shake your little finger at us notice that there is three fingers pointing right back at you. I'm done you with you. |
| Date | 05:54:23, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Federation Aldegarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | we regard those deeds as achievable as any party can accomplish, regardless of number of seats, and with all due respect, our statement was purely following suits with yours in the other proposal, which grossly juxtaposed our best attempt to share the power with as many parties as it deserves sharing, to evident rightist coagulation; our apology for not including you, but that does not mean you can behave sorely as such. technically you can always vote no and turn it down, and technically you can always comment on our choice of selection, and technically we can always argue with each other, so don't take it that hard as involving our 'little finger'. in the end, our brains talk, not our digits. and whoa, you took this matter far more seriously than we would expect anyone participating in a political simulation can get to. chillax, we only blamed you because you, pardon our choice of lexis, whined about it 'what have we done?' P.S. what does 'three fingers' represent? |
| Date | 14:36:26, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Green Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | The point of having elections is to find out which party is supported by the largest proportion of voters, and allowing that party to exercise its liberty in proposing a government. We have done that, and there is no reason to propose another government until the next election. |
| Date | 03:22:52, August 12, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2619 |
| Message | When you point one finger notice how many are pointing back. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 247 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 429 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 74 |
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