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Bill: Military Reforms
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Conservative Union (IA)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2620
Description[?]:
| To make our nation stronger. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:43:38, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Neo-Imperial Peoples Vanguard Party (IA) | To | Debating the Military Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We ask that Article I be amended to "All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military." I yield. |
| Date | 21:19:48, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the Military Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Not everyone is cut out to be in the military, so why not offer the second choice. |
| Date | 23:30:31, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Military Reforms |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Article II would make a mockery of the His Imperial Majesty's Crown Forces. There is no room for political correctness when it comes to the Defence of the Realm, sir. |
| Date | 03:13:21, August 12, 2008 CET | From | Neo-Imperial Peoples Vanguard Party (IA) | To | Debating the Military Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, May I again remind the honorable councilman from the Covenanters that it states, "discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited" that has nothing to do with quotas or any other positive discrimination, a most horrible scheme, nor discrimination along physical lines. It simply prohibits racism and sectarianism, we fought a war over this, I won't see this country fight another one for the same reason. I yield. |
| Date | 01:27:21, August 13, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Military Reforms |
| Message | * Major-General William Baillie rises: Mr Speaker, Article II constitutes political interference in the operational running of His Majesty's Armed Forces: this is completely unacceptable to us. |
| Date | 01:42:21, August 13, 2008 CET | From | Neo-Imperial Peoples Vanguard Party (IA) | To | Debating the Military Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This has become a different kind of debate, that I did not sign up for, a debate on discrimination and racism a debate that will lead to divisiveness and inevitably civil war. I yield. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 57 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 143 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Treaties will be eligible for deletion if they are more than 50 in-game years old and have no currently ratified members. |
| Random quote: "[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...[where] the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." - James Madison |