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Bill: B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarchitarians
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2620
Description[?]:
| A bill to change the law of who can propose a cabinet back to the original law before the NLP changed it. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:41:29, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Nationalliberale Partei | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | Ahhhh! What a simple ploy! Because you don't actually have a parliamentary majority (and only realised it when we pointed it out!) you now want the government to succumb to another constitutional crisis? We think not! |
| Date | 01:46:57, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Nationalliberale Partei | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | Let's see. One third of parliament needs to vote against this legislation for this to fail. *all National-liberal MPs raise their hands to vote against* Okay, that was funny. Nice try. |
| Date | 01:55:22, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Anarchitarians | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | Just looking for a paper trail, the voters seem to constantly prefer the Anarchitarians over the NLP seeing though this is the 3rd time we've beat you in the last decade, and this time by the largest margin yet... |
| Date | 01:56:08, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Anarchitarians | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | pointed what out? you're delusional... |
| Date | 01:59:25, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Nationalliberale Partei | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | 60,001,456 Dundorfer voted for the NLP. 30,720,829 Dundorfer voted for your party. If this is being beaten, then we wonder what an NLP -win- will entail. |
| Date | 02:24:20, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Nationalliberale Partei | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | We also feel this nicely exposes just how opportunistic the Anarchitarians are. They didn't propose this when we held the Federal Presidency, after all! |
| Date | 02:53:19, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Anarchitarians | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | Pfft. we beat you by 10 million votes in the 2nd round. Your coalition of the FSP and EHP got trounced by the A-SRP coalition in the Bundespräsidential race. In fact, if you combine all the votes in the first round into a A-SRP-VBD coalition, we beat you in the first round, and combine all the votes our coalition trounced you by 50 million votes. In the Bundesrat, your coalition lost 9 seats. A possible coalition of the SRP, VBD, and A gained 9. An offer is on the table for the EHP and FSP to join a winning coalition. But that's another story. Why they show up on the political scene and follow the NLP in lock-step is beyond amazement. In 2619: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?after=7428&before=7440&nation=3 In 2616: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?after=7392&before=7404&nation=3 In 2615: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?after=7380&before=7392&nation=3 In 2612: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?after=7344&before=7356&nation=3 In 2609: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?after=7308&before=7320&nation=3 In 2606: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?after=7272&before=7284&nation=3 |
| Date | 03:00:20, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Nationalliberale Partei | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | Oh. So that is why you have a crushing majority in parliament! Wait... |
| Date | 09:49:57, August 11, 2008 CET | From | FreiStaatsPartei | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | If the Anarchitarians bothered to view the issues and the FSP's stance on said issues, they would note that the FSP does not in any way follow the NLP "lock-step" in any manner. We resent the implication. |
| Date | 12:46:51, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Anarchitarians | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | You've never run for Bundespräsident. You've always supported the NLP, even in the first round. That's another story... |
| Date | 14:59:32, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Anarchitarians | To | Debating the B. A-2: Kabinettsbildung |
| Message | Yes, with a voting system that gives more seats to larger regions, in which you mop up in the largest region. If you're so confident in your abilities to win votes, lets make the system equal, you know, practicing what you preach. Afterall, there is no need for such advantage as you've shown you mop in the smallest region as well. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 105 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 397 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 98 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: “Their cheap talk of the 'greater good' is a thinly concealed excuse for subordinating the people to the institutionalized violence that is the state.†- Margaret Woodhall, former Dranian politician |