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Bill: Freeing Culture
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kundrati Revolutionary Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2119
Description[?]:
| Current law has allowed significant portions of our culture to be locked away as the private property of an elite, essentially forever. It has halted the creation of derivative works of art and technology and even infringed on scientific advancement and academic discussion. We propose to eliminate these restrictive policies and create a society where culture is freely participated in and created by all. Culture that is owned as the private property of a few is no culture at all. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Protection of original works of technology and arts.
Old value:: Works of technology and art are protected by copyright.
Current: Works of technology and art are protected by copyright.
Proposed: Technology and art are part of the commons and are not protected by copyright.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:07:23, September 29, 2005 CET | From | Unio enim si quis Motus Populi | To | Debating the Freeing Culture |
| Message | absolutly not. |
| Date | 10:06:27, September 30, 2005 CET | From | Alderdath Lebrali Demkratti | To | Debating the Freeing Culture |
| Message | i will have to think about this |
| Date | 18:12:39, September 30, 2005 CET | From | Unio enim si quis Motus Populi | To | Debating the Freeing Culture |
| Message | copyright laws are there for a reason. You have the right to protect what comes out of your mind and from your hands like you have the right to protect your own physical property. What Copyrights have done is not hault advancement, it has furthered it. You can't just copy someone elses work, so you have to come up with somthing better, and so on. Copyrights perpetuate advancement, while eliminatiing them will stagnate it, if not eliminate it completely. |
| Date | 22:40:16, September 30, 2005 CET | From | Kundrati Revolutionary Movement | To | Debating the Freeing Culture |
| Message | "Copyrights perpetuate advancement, while eliminatiing them will stagnate it, if not eliminate it completely." Which is why in the real world nobody ever told any stories or drew any pictures or wrote any songs until around 1800, right? Our culture is not the private property of a rich elite. It is something we all take part in and freely develop by adding to and combining pre-existing ideas to create and share with each other. A system of copyrights invariably results in huge portions of culture not being able to be legally shared and participated in. Without free access and participation, culture becomes something else entirely - it becomes degraded, something to be bought and sold rather than shared and participated in. While particular cultural artifacts can legitimately be owned, culture itself is not a commodity. |
| Date | 07:24:28, October 01, 2005 CET | From | Unio enim si quis Motus Populi | To | Debating the Freeing Culture |
| Message | "Which is why in the real world nobody ever told any stories or drew any pictures or wrote any songs until around 1800, right?" Did you ever notice in history a lot of ideas are stolen? Darwin comes to mind. Natural Selection was not his theory. "A system of copyrights invariably results in huge portions of culture not being able to be legally shared and participated in" Yeah, it's so damn harmful to soceity that someone writes a book, and wants to copyright it so someone can't just copy the whole damn thing, pass it off as his own, and make money off of it. But oh! That writer is a rich elite! The fact of the matter is you won't be snuffing out the "rich elite," you will be snuffing out the thousands of regular people who come up with new things. What will be there incentive to come up with new things if would be so easily stolen, produced more cheaply, and sold more cheaply? It will stop the writer from writing as his works will be stolen, it will stop the inventor from inventing as his works will be so easily stolen, and thousands upon thousands of term papers will go with not a single original word from a student, who, without copy right laws, will simply take what is already writen, and make it his own. |
| Date | 18:21:52, October 01, 2005 CET | From | Kundrati Revolutionary Movement | To | Debating the Freeing Culture |
| Message | Darwin didn't steal it. He and Wallace came up with it independently, It was only when Darwin saw a draft of a paper by Wallace that he got off his ass and published the stuff he'd been working on for years. As for people passing off the work of others as their own, we're fairly certain that that would fall under our laws against innaccurate or deceptive advertising. And we utterly fail to see how the lack of copyright prevented Shakespear from writing his plays and sonnets. People create the artistic side of culture because people are naturally creative and love telling stories and making symbolic representations of the world around them. People create the material side of culture because people are naturally creative, enjoy building things, and are driven to solve some problem that current material culture doesn't. None of this requires a profit motive, and even under copyright systems, profit isn't what drives the actually creativity - it's what drives the commercialization. Every citizen in the KU is given enough wealth to have a basic subsistence - we have no starving artists or struggling techie inventors, only well-fed ones who don't have to worry about the rent even if they devote nearly all of their time to their art. And almost none of them are able to make significantly more off of their work anyway, even with copyrights. So why bother? Also note that this bill doesn't eliminate patents on technological works, only copyrights. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 40 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 265 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has been running since 2005. Dorvik was Particracy's first nation, the Dorvik Social Democrats the first party and the International Greens the first Party Organisation. |
| Random quote: "A wise ruler ought never to keep faith when by doing so it would be against his interests." - Niccolo Machiavelli |