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Bill: Cildanian National Flag Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Libertarian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2624
Description[?]:
A proposal to lift the ban on commercial use of the Cildanian national flag and transfer of ownership of the national flag into the public domain. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: The national flag may not be used for commercial purposes.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:40:17, August 18, 2008 CET | From | Cildanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | We oppose this, the Cildanian Flag is not to be used in commercial use, who wants to have a Porn company that use the Cildanian Flag in their advertisements etc. |
Date | 17:02:26, August 18, 2008 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | The League approves. The Cildanian flag is property of the people, public domain. |
Date | 23:09:47, August 18, 2008 CET | From | Christian Action | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | We referrer the right honourable member to the discussions from the last time this concept was put before the house. A company reserves the right to use its logo and only that company is permitted to use it and the nation deserves a similar right the flag of Cildania is an internationally recognised symbol of Cildania and for companies to use it without specific government permission or charter brings the nation into disrepute and misrepresentation. |
Date | 22:45:11, August 19, 2008 CET | From | Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | The PLP is voting against freedom this time? |
Date | 22:47:06, August 19, 2008 CET | From | Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | We refer the gentleman from Christian Action to a dictionary. A 'country' is not a 'company.' |
Date | 22:53:29, August 19, 2008 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | The position of the PLP was rationalized the last time this issue was brought - in fact, we ourselves proposed this change. The reason was that the Cildanian flag is easily associated with Cildania as a whole, and thus we don't want a faulty set of vacuum cleaners to get associated with our country. The Cildanian flag is a "trademark" of the State, and no private company represents Cildania, so no private company can use the flag. Note that this restriction does not affect private use. |
Date | 23:05:49, August 19, 2008 CET | From | Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | Last time the PLP said it would not vote against more freedom. |
Date | 01:18:39, August 20, 2008 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | Maybe the last time we did so, but this time the arguments of the no side have won us over. |
Date | 07:48:53, August 20, 2008 CET | From | Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | Is the PLP also concerned with the use of a Cildanian flag in a porno movie? |
Date | 23:12:34, August 20, 2008 CET | From | Christian Action | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | We in Action are more concerned of the flags use on potentially dangerous products. Think of the damage to Cildanian exports if a product seemly bearing the endorsement of the nation by the presence of the flag contained dangerous chemicals. [i.e. what happened to china last year.] than its use in the sex industries. |
Date | 18:19:57, August 25, 2008 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party | To | Debating the Cildanian National Flag Act |
Message | RLP, you will not win us with teasings. We are more morally progressive than you can imagine, and thus the thought of the Cildanian flag on a pornographic movie does not trouble us. If it were for us, the lead star can have it tatooed on his genitals, but our reasoning goes more along the lines of what CA just said: in other countries, the presence of the Cildanian flag is seen as an implicit endorsement of our country, and we don't want the mistakes of private enterprises to contaminate the image of Cildania as a whole. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||||
yes | Total Seats: 94 | |||||||
no |
Total Seats: 116 | |||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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