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Bill: Abolishing the Nanny State
Details
Submitted by[?]: Spenocratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2625
Description[?]:
| Maybe if we do not tax people so much, they wont have trouble paying for the things that the government is currently supplying. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: Child benefit policies are left to local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All veterans shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Proposed: All veterans shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:46:56, August 20, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Abolishing the Nanny State |
| Message | "Clearly the Spenocrats didn't pay attention to their history classes. What happened before the welfare state? People died. Especially children. It is a joke that a party will complain about abortion, and then push agendas that harm the children after they are born. Yet more hypocrisy. Either life is precious - or it's not." --Avar Akkad Avara |
| Date | 20:18:16, August 20, 2008 CET | From | Spenocratic Party | To | Debating the Abolishing the Nanny State |
| Message | I am not suggesting harm unto the baby. I believe that Likatonians are generous people. Maybe if we don't tax them as much as we do (weve come a long way) they will have more money to give to people with children. I'm almost positive that Likatonians don't feel generous on tax day but I'm almost certain that they do when they give to charity. |
| Date | 22:02:43, August 20, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Abolishing the Nanny State |
| Message | "The point was that, without the safety net of our current welfare state, what happens to the poor is that they get hungry, they get sick, and the die. Especially children. The Spenocrats are the worst kind of hypocrites, whining about the rights of foetal jelly, but heaving a hefty screw-you to anything that makes it out of mommy's tummy." --Avar Akkad Avara |
| Date | 05:54:54, August 21, 2008 CET | From | Spenocratic Party | To | Debating the Abolishing the Nanny State |
| Message | We are also allowing local areas to determine this law. This is not where the feds should be. |
| Date | 13:21:22, August 21, 2008 CET | From | Permissive Social Union | To | Debating the Abolishing the Nanny State |
| Message | Socialism will stay in Likatonia. The LFF has cast the deciding vote, and is proud to have done so. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 212 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 377 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 77 |
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