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Bill: Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Coalition
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2642
Description[?]:
| This is a full manifesto of the PC under the new leadership of the Triad Completed. Debate is encouraged and the bill may be split into sections at a later point. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: Judgements may only be appealed against for grave procedural errors.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Energy regulation.
Old value:: Energy is provided by private, unregulated companies but subsidies are given to those on a low income.
Current: Energy is provided by nationalised companies.
Proposed: Energy is provided by nationalised companies.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Current: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Proposed: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards labor unions.
Old value:: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Current: Trade unions may exist and all workers must have membership in one.
Proposed: Trade unions are illegal.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 0
Current: 15
Proposed: 10
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Current: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Proposed: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:13:43, September 21, 2008 CET | From |  Traditional Conservative's Party | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | We agree with some, but disagree with others. |
| Date | 23:17:32, September 21, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | Would you care to elaborate on those? |
| Date | 23:47:57, September 21, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | We disagree with each article in this manifesto. We would possibly be open to discussing a return to the previous system of 'electing' the monarch's representative, however it should only be after lengthy discussions in the Imperial Diet about what that would entail. |
| Date | 23:58:27, September 21, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | "We are fully open to the possibility of having this thoroughly discussed in the Diet seperately if that is what is wished for." Archel Lysias Praetor of the Triad |
| Date | 00:11:51, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | There are many parts of this bill that we disagree with, and only a few articles that we actually do support. |
| Date | 00:18:37, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | Could you elaborate? We can't make amendments otherwise |
| Date | 01:11:42, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | We disagree with Articles 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, and 12. |
| Date | 01:22:12, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | Ok these may be split off to another bill |
| Date | 02:33:16, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Traditional Conservative's Party | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | We also disagree with 3, 4, 6,7, 9 and 12. Articles 1 and 2 depending upon the debate that will, I imagine, follow. |
| Date | 02:53:05, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | About 95% of this bill the FAP argees with. The government name change and the main leader names should stay the same and the luxury goods tax should remain at 0 or the tax lowered down a bit to a reasonable rate. |
| Date | 02:55:33, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | It goes without saying, we oppose. |
| Date | 13:23:38, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | In the process of being split... |
| Date | 13:38:31, September 22, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Lysias Initiative - Justice and Economic Reform of 2640 |
| Message | This bill has been split to three sections |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 288 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 266 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 96 |
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