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Bill: Clean war
Details
Submitted by[?]: Left Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2655
Description[?]:
| Stop using bio en nuclear weapons |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear, chemical or biological attack.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Current: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:29:37, October 20, 2008 CET | From | Patriciate Imperial League (UCF) | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | ...and we will remain defenceless? With the rise of ultra-fascists like the NWO who are attempting to take over the world, now is definitely not the time to remove the power to defend our nation. |
| Date | 14:12:15, October 20, 2008 CET | From | Left Socialist Party | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | By blowing them, AND millions of innocent citizens back to the Iron Age? I'm sure there are other options... |
| Date | 15:09:58, October 20, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party (UCF) | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | This is ridiculous. If there are so obvious, "other options", why dont the deniuses in the LSp propose them? |
| Date | 15:38:38, October 20, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party (UCF) | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | Also, there is no such thing as "clean" or "just" war. War is neither clean nor just. War is horrible and we must use what ever means necessary to protect Mordusians, because that is our mandate, to protect Mordusians. We, the government must protect our own people, let the governments of other nations protect theirs. |
| Date | 15:41:11, October 20, 2008 CET | From | Left Socialist Party | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | Absolutely agree: our first arms must as such be diplomacy, applying to the population of the agressor to bring back their troops... If not possible, convential weapons are more then enough... Is that clear enough for our dear but enraged Federal Republicans? |
| Date | 23:59:07, October 20, 2008 CET | From | Union Party | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | OOC: Visibility. |
| Date | 11:32:03, October 21, 2008 CET | From | Patriciate Imperial League (UCF) | To | Debating the Clean war |
| Message | Conventional weapons are enough when fighting other nations using conventional weapons, but more often than not, our enemy will have access to extreme weaponry and will consider using them against us in war. Granted these weapons deliver significant consequences, but they are necessary for our defence. If another nation threatens to destroy us, it is preferable for us to destroy them first. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 50 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 112 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 33 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not approve a Cultural Protocol request within the first 48 hours of it being requested. This is in order to give other players a chance to query the proposed changes, if they wish to do so. Moderation may be approached for advice on a proposed change, but any advice proffered should always be understood under the provisio that no final decision will be made until at least 48 hours after the request has been formally submitted for approval. |
| Random quote: "Power always has to be kept in check; power exercised in secret, especially under the cloak of national security, is doubly dangerous." - William Proxmire |