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Bill: Healthcare privatization Act of 2656
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Republican Party (UCF)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2660
Description[?]:
| Due to competition and a very healthy economy, spurred by the free market, all Mordusian citizensa can afford to pay for healthcare and they do not need the government to do it for them. Let our citizens be responsible again, wealth redistribution never works, and allow them to pay for themselves. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: Health care is private, but the government subsidises the cost of it for all citizens.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: Health care is private, but is paid for by the state for people with low incomes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:25:51, October 26, 2008 CET | From | Ocean Submarine League of Progress | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Providing a service is not wealth redistribution. OOC: Have you been listening to John McCain just a bit too much there? |
| Date | 02:25:44, October 27, 2008 CET | From | Patriciate Imperial League (UCF) | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | We echo the statement of the Seawave party. Perhaps the FRP employees should learn the meaning of the term \"wealth distribution\". |
| Date | 15:11:17, October 27, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party (UCF) | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Yes it is. The government steals from everybody to provide a \"service\" that not everybody will use. Even the governments are ineffecient, so we must limit where the government acts. The private sector, as it is motivated by money, will perform better services. it is regulated by the laws of the market and competition, so it will provide a fair service. Lastly, private institutions cannot raise taxes if they require more funds, which means they are obliged to be as efficient as possible. All citizens require health care. As where there is a demand, there will be an offer, all our citizens can afford to pay for healthcare. To keep taxe rates low and the economy booming, we cannot affor to subsidize health care. We wish only to make \"de jure\" what is already \"de facto\". OOC: Actually, I am not in any way for McCain, he is really a poor excuse for a conservative. |
| Date | 18:16:42, October 27, 2008 CET | From | Mordusian Austrian Union | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Wealth redistribution is simply theft via government. Theft is when A takes coercive action against B to take property. For a government to \"provide a service\" (which is in itself a misnomer), it must do exactly that -- take money from A (through taxes) to give to party B (whoever uses those services). Even if members of Party A use the service \"provided,\" the money was stolen from them. |
| Date | 12:17:11, October 31, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party (UCF) | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | We have adjusted the bill to make it more acceotable to the PIL, could the UP tell us if it is aceeptable to them as well? |
| Date | 21:13:32, November 01, 2008 CET | From | Ocean Submarine League of Progress | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Healthcare is a right, not a privilege. All should be provided access, as is present. |
| Date | 05:27:56, November 02, 2008 CET | From | Mordusian Austrian Union | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Healthcare is not a right. Positive rights cannot logically exist. |
| Date | 11:44:25, November 02, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party (UCF) | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Healthcare is not a right but we ask the MAU to reconsider. The proposal would reduce the government\'s role in healthcare. |
| Date | 17:13:54, November 02, 2008 CET | From | Mordusian Austrian Union | To | Debating the Healthcare privatization Act of 2656 |
| Message | Reconsider what? We are still voting for this bill, as it is not the government\'s responsibility. OOC: the no vote was a mistake, sorry. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 202 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 40 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 23 |
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