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Bill: Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668
Details
Submitted by[?]: Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2669
Description[?]:
Be it enacted upon the Emperor's most Illustrious and Lutheran Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the representatives of the people of Greater Hulstria, in this present Imperial Diet assembled: An Act to proscribe certain organisations which have been deemed to be operating in contravention of our national law and for the destabilisation of our country and government. Article I - Basic Provisions 1. This Act may be cited as the Unlawful Organisations Act, 2668. 2. This Act shall be, upon its constitutional passage, considered law in the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria and in every other territory under Hulstrian jurisdiction. Article II - Proscriptions 1. The Revolutionäre Republikanische Armee is henceforth considered an unlawful organisations and any activities executed or sponsored by it shall be considered illegal. 2. No citizen or subject of Greater Hulstria shall solicitate or otherwise seek to obtain membership or any other form of status within or of the Revolutionäre Republikanische Armee. 3. The holding of active membership, or seeking to obtain membership, within or of the Revolutionäre Republikanische Armee shall, subsequent to six months following this Act's pasasge, be a felony and may be, after the guilty party is duly tried and convicted thereof, punished with a minimum of five years imprisonment or a maximum of one hundred years imprisonment as well as deprivation of citizenship. 4. These provisions shall apply also to any and all of the associated entities of the Revolutionäre Republikanische Armee, including but not limited to the Hulstrian Republican Army and all other paramilitary organisations. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 00:24:28, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | Looks good. |
Date | 00:25:22, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | So, what about their 69 seat membership right now but I'm assuming this is just about their paramilitary faction. |
Date | 00:51:43, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | OOC: From the wording of this, I think it refers to my whole party. Regardless of that, I'm willing to go along with this, and essentially, once this passes (which it probably will), the RRA will be no more and its leaders will jailed. Ever since my party's defeat in 2667 and unlikelihood of really having any chance as the only republican party, I've been thinking about my post-RRA disbandment situation (whether VFA reforms or a new party forms, etc.) |
Date | 00:54:13, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | Due what has been demonstrated as the inseparable link between the political and paramilitary factions, this refers to the entire party and its affiliated organisations. OOC: Honestly, the most realistic thing you could do would be to inactivate and then reactivate. I'd also like to point out that I only wrote this after you signalled that you (as a player) might be considering abandoning this incarnation of your party. |
Date | 01:06:54, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | Support given due to inseperability of the two organisations. |
Date | 01:32:51, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | OOC: Despite the realism there would be for me to inactivate and reactivate, its much more convenient to just change my party's name. When I wrote what I did in the post, I was more hinting at the fact that I will eventually end up changing the party's name on my account, essentially and for RP purposes, creating a new party, the successor to the VFA. |
Date | 01:39:51, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | OOC: But then we couldn't roleplay the arrest of your DMs. Elections would be held soon enough afterwards, and as an added incentive, you would receive the "reactivation bonus" built into the game mechanics. |
Date | 01:52:53, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Unlawful Organisations (Proscription of the HRA/RRA) Act, 2668 |
Message | OOC: It'd still be possible to RP the arrests. All I'd have to do is abstain on all bills during the whole process. Yes its lazy, but its still a matter of being more convenient than going through whole reactivating process. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||||
yes |
Total Seats: 581 | |||||||
no | Total Seats: 69 | |||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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