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Bill: Utilizing all options at our disposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tuesday Is Coming
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2124
Description[?]:
| If any nation shall attack Lodamun, we authorize our military to take any action determined to facilitate the defense of Lodamun. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government allows all arms to be exported freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:42:48, October 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | the usual question: we will even sell arms to Deltaria? |
| Date | 18:35:13, October 07, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | Sure. |
| Date | 05:47:42, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | The government will not, however. We will not prevent others from doing so. |
| Date | 11:18:40, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | No to all but the nuclear one... |
| Date | 17:40:39, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | The nuclear one would violate the declaration of peace, which says we will not attack first. |
| Date | 18:12:49, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | The nuclear one doesnt have to violate the declaration of peace. Together, it would mean that we dont have to wait for someone to nuke us before we hit them. We just have to wait for them to attack us. Then we would be able to do whatever, once they hit us with anything. |
| Date | 01:26:31, October 11, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | wouldn't that value be "we will not use nuclear weapons unless attacked" rather than "The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason"? That value sounds like first strike authorization. Does a value exist for "only in self-defence"? It probably should, if it doesn't. |
| Date | 01:31:10, October 11, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Utilizing all options at our disposal |
| Message | The current law only allows us to use them if we are nuked. The proposed law here would allow us to use them for any reason. However, "Declaration of Peace" would also be in effect, meaning that we can only use them if we are attacked. Both laws affect the hypothetical situation. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 55 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 202 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 43 |
| Random fact: In order for a Cabinet bill to pass, more than half of the legislature must vote for it and all of the parties included in the proposed Cabinet must support it. If your nation has a Head of State who is also the Head of Government, then the party controlling this character must also vote for the bill, since the Head of Government is also a member of the Cabinet. If any of these requirements are not met, the bill will not pass. |
| Random quote: "The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine." - George Washington |