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Bill: Jelbanian Military Figures
Details
Submitted by[?]: Christian Royalist Party (IJ)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2681
Description[?]:
| OCC: The Untied States Military has 1,447,076 active duty soldiers and 1,458,500 in reserves. The Jelbanian military has 2.2 million in active duty and 1.5 million in reserves. Thus our active duty personal is roughly 1.5 times the US military. Jelbanian Army: 1 million active duty and 800,000 in reserves, 15,000 tanks Jelbanian Tanks: 1,000 Apocalypse Tanks, 6,000 Rino Tanks, 8,000 Grizzly Tanks Jelbanian Navy: 350,000 active duty and 200,000 in reserves, 400 ships, 5,000 aircraft Jelbanian Ships: 20 Aircraft Carriers, 100 Destroyers, 70 Cruisers, 150 Submarines, 60 Amphibious Assault Ships and Missile Ships Jelbanian Marines: 300,000 active duty and 200,000 in reserves Jelbanian Airforce: 500,000 active duty and 300,000 in reserves, 8,000 aircraft Yes, you consider this to be fact as of 2680 No, you do not consider this to be fact as of 2680 |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:55:55, December 15, 2008 CET | From |  Jelbék Knstatak Onsmifrndé Prta | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | Has this been worked out in accordance with the Rildanor accords ? If not, it is considered null and void regardless of the voting outcome (in the context of RP). |
| Date | 22:04:24, December 15, 2008 CET | From | Jelbék Knstatak Onsmifrndé Prta | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | 20 Aircraft carriers? Even at the start of WW2 the USA only had 8. Unless you can provide some extenuating reason why this is the case, Even now the USA only has 11 active with one under construction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_ships I would suggest this is unrealistic and would be cited as such in any RP. |
| Date | 22:43:15, December 15, 2008 CET | From | Christian Royalist Party (IJ) | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | The US has 12 Aircraft carriers currently. The amount is realistic seeing as how we have more personal than the US military. All figures are based off Rildanor Accords. |
| Date | 23:12:48, December 15, 2008 CET | From | Jelbanian Blue Party | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | I think 15 air craft carriers is a nice compromise. |
| Date | 00:19:56, December 16, 2008 CET | From | Jelbék Knstatak Onsmifrndé Prta | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | Considering the nation's size is pretty much on par with other nations in Terra and is by no means the superpower that the USA is, and that as far as I know - no other nation claims nearly this many carriers, I would argue even 15 is unrealistic. Using this many militarily will bring questions, in the course of a conflict I suggest this will be challenged. I would suggest 6 as an absolute top-end estimate. Anyway carry on. My objection being duly noted. |
| Date | 06:45:38, December 16, 2008 CET | From | Jelbanian Blue Party | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | How about 7. I am ok with seven as well. |
| Date | 08:35:18, December 16, 2008 CET | From | Jelbék Knstatak Onsmifrndé Prta | To | Debating the Jelbanian Military Figures |
| Message | How about 6 active, and one in drydock - it could be up and active pretty quickly. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 42 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 33 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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