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Bill: Education Discipline Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Malivia Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2124
Description[?]:
| Allows non-contact discipline in schools. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: No forms of direct discipline are allowed.
Current: No forms of direct discipline are allowed.
Proposed: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:02:40, October 08, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | Self explanitory. The current law as written is too lax. |
| Date | 00:42:13, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Social and Labour Reform Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | We agree. Pupils need to learn discipline, and how to function within a set of rules and a heirarchy, or they will find it exceedingly difficult to succeed in any business. |
| Date | 01:03:15, October 10, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | When it comes to learning, discipline serves only to demotivate pupils, by removing any sense of ownership over the learning process. As for business, the most successful businesses tend to be the least hierarchical, with the least rigid rules. This proposal would hold our people back. |
| Date | 01:07:24, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | What a bunch of BS. Even a lax set of discipline is far preferable to none at all, as with none, students go out in the world without a keen sense of what types of behaviors are appropriate and not. |
| Date | 02:53:01, October 10, 2005 CET | From |  Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | Motivating people to behave appropriately is not about punishing them when they do not, but rather convincing them as to why the should. Same in business, if you are managing people you don't put them in time out if they aren't working, rather you convince them why then need to improve performance. Or you fire them, a poor choice in all but the most desperate situations and not an option for our school system. |
| Date | 15:13:21, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | Actually, in business, if you are managing people and they step out of line, you write them up, which sometimes is the cases in tardiness, or repeat poor performances. Disciplinary actions are necessary in both business and in school to get the point across that certain behaviors are not going to be tolerated. People may give lip service.. and in enough cases, they usually do, when you try to 'convince' them without anything backing that up except your words. I really wished I could live in a world where 'convincing' people to straighten up worked all the time. Unfortunately, that is not the world we live in. |
| Date | 16:57:45, October 10, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | If you are managing people and get to the point where you need to write them up, you have lost already. That worker will never become a good employee. Only by bringing them into the fold can you truely change their attitude. |
| Date | 20:19:50, October 10, 2005 CET | From | United Labour Party | To | Debating the Education Discipline Act |
| Message | I would have voted for, but MDP was rude to LibCom. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 17 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 65 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 18 |
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