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Bill: Social Security Initiative 2123
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anti-Particracy and Unionist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2124
Description[?]:
| We need stronger social security. Countries with a social security network are considered the most advanced in the world. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:31:38, October 10, 2005 CET | From |  Labor Party | To | Debating the Social Security Initiative 2123 |
| Message | Prefer Article 2 'There is a compulsory private pension system.' So that while those who work put money towards a pension for old age, to not overburden the social security system. |
| Date | 19:55:19, October 10, 2005 CET | From | People's Democratic Party | To | Debating the Social Security Initiative 2123 |
| Message | We agree with both articles. |
| Date | 08:25:17, October 11, 2005 CET | From | Anti-Particracy and Unionist Party | To | Debating the Social Security Initiative 2123 |
| Message | Labor Party: If we have, "There is a compulsory private pension system', what happens to people who cannot afford a private pension? We need to make money available for the poorest people. But we also need to keep money aside for those who look forward to a bright pensioning future. You never know whether or not a pension company will go bust! |
| Date | 00:54:08, October 12, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Democratic Faction | To | Debating the Social Security Initiative 2123 |
| Message | We believe that only adults who are physically incapable of supporting themselves should be guaranteed any state of welfare, this includes the old, mentally or physically unstable, etc. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 282 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 119 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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