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Bill: CCI 012
Details
Submitted by[?]: Coalizione di Chierici Islamica
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2695
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state appoints the head and ministers of the state religion, but does not intervene otherwise.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state appoints all heads and other ministers of all religions.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Proposed: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:20:46, January 12, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | La religión oficial es Islam. |
| Date | 09:34:02, January 12, 2009 CET | From | Rhodes Front | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Lets not lower ourselves to a religion of Islam and a language of French. |
| Date | 16:21:54, January 12, 2009 CET | From | Quanzari Restorationists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | We vote yes on the mechanics, though obvciously not on the heretical cult they promote, or illegal language. |
| Date | 17:51:17, January 12, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Same. |
| Date | 03:49:24, January 13, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | {romovemos Italiano como un idioma de juego de papel. I speak Spanish and English. But we can speak both lol. |
| Date | 06:05:32, January 13, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Why do you play an Italian party then? Be an English party instead :) |
| Date | 03:41:02, January 14, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | English parties play other language parties all the time. Why can't spanish players too? We're role playing an Italian party and we don't see a change to that for a while. |
| Date | 04:45:03, January 14, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | You seem to have a fascination with Islam, so why not be an Arab party? |
| Date | 05:51:08, January 14, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | A fascination is a far call, believe me.. Istalia is Islamic and we have proven that by our gains in the election. This area of Terra has a strong Muslim presence and we would like to show that here. We don't neccesarily believe you have to be Arabic to be Muslim.. Not all Christians are English correct? |
| Date | 07:31:40, January 14, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Correct, though there are few Italian Muslims. |
| Date | 01:03:37, January 15, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Dosen't mean there aren't any. |
| Date | 03:31:00, January 15, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | I didn't say there weren't any, I said there were few. |
| Date | 03:43:51, January 15, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Ok then I don't understand you last point you made but ok lol. |
| Date | 05:12:35, January 15, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | My point is that there are so few Italian Muslims that your party's existence doesn't make much sense. |
| Date | 03:58:20, January 16, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | I beg to differ. We got elected by those "few" Istalian Muslims. Besides there are more to be counted who did not vote for us. So I do not think that based on our region with Islamic nations arround us it is a good inference to say that there are "few" Istalian Muslims. |
| Date | 04:49:03, January 16, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | We do not deny the existence of Muslims, but we do find it hard to believe ITALIAN Muslims. |
| Date | 05:14:59, January 16, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Well what do you want us to do? Change and become an Anglo Catholic Party? This is rp we know there are not many Italian Muslims in the real world. But this particracy. |
| Date | 06:05:08, January 16, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Not necessarily an Anglo Catholic Party. You could become an Arab Muslim party instead. |
| Date | 01:26:19, January 17, 2009 CET | From | Coalizione di Chierici Islamica | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | Well we're not... Sorry =/. |
| Date | 08:23:19, January 17, 2009 CET | From | Hessexian Arab Royalists | To | Debating the CCI 012 |
| Message | I'll let you have the final word. I've made the move to an Arab party myself. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 227 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 372 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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