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Bill: Freedom of Assembly Act
Details
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2045
Description[?]:
| The people should be allowed to assemble where they wish, and the police should not be allowed to intervene. It is a basic human right. The "potential risk" to public safety is open to interpretation, so until they commit a crime a group should not be persecuted. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Current:
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Proposed: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | not recorded | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | as long as they don't break any other laws (breaking and entering, vandalism, firearms ownership) i'm fine with assembalies. Don't assume that they are going to be violent and need to be dispersed just because you don't like their message |
| Date | not recorded | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | Well, if you have a bunch of radical anti-[insert minority here] people chanting and making threatening signs outside of a, say, orphanage for [insert minority here] children, shouldn't they be stopped? THEY are infringing on the rights of the children of that minority to live a life without fear of being killed by fellow citizens. We will not vote "yes" on this. |
| Date | not recorded | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | You can say whatever you want. that's not against the law. trying to act upon your bigotry, however, will get you thrown in prison. The best way to protect the rights that you have is to protect the rights of those you don't agree with. |
| Date | 01:20:48, April 27, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | Listen, I'm not against free speech. However, if qualified experts deem that a protest is potentially dangerous, shouldn't we listen to them? |
| Date | 15:21:54, April 27, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | if they become dangerous, then we calm things down. You don't arrest people because they MIGHT commit crimes, do you? you arrest them after they have already commited them. I would not take the expert's advice even if i could be reasonably certain that they were not motivated politically (advising for the arrest of people they do not agree with) |
| Date | 21:39:13, April 27, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | Who said anything about arresting? At the moment they only have permission to disperse potentially dangerous groups. |
| Date | 03:19:39, April 28, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | Exactly. This isn't arresting. This is saying, "You can't protest here." No one is arrested unless they try something. |
| Date | 12:39:51, April 29, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | HA! and you think that just forcing them to disperse for no good reason is any better? why not just take our political opponents and have their tounges removed? surely they wouldn't cause any trouble then! As far as i'm concerned, Unless they are clearly breaking an existing law, they have the right to assemble wherever they want and say whatever they want. We don't need this, because laws already exist that prevent what you are trying to prevent. The only difference is that your way is so much more abuseable |
| Date | 18:49:37, April 29, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | They can't do it for no good reason! They have to have a good reason. For an example say a racist group is shouting their message, they may not intend to attack anyone, but you can be sure someone will be angry enough to attack them. Then they retailiate and before you know it we have a riot on our hands! |
| Date | 20:38:35, April 29, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | then put the officers between the groups of protestors, don't just cart off all the rallyists. I am 100% positive that someone out there hates what you have to say. does that mean you shouldn't get a chance to say it? of course not. |
| Date | 23:25:32, April 29, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | Someone might hate what I say and if someone I agreed with is shouting my views to someone who hates then they should be moved along. |
| Date | 01:29:27, April 30, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Act |
| Message | and by "moved along" you mean "silenced" or more accurately: "have their freedom of speech removed" |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 208 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 48 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 121 |
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