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Bill: Secularism in Public Places and Equality in Taxation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Justice Left Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2706
Description[?]:
| The SJLP believes that all religious institutions should be taxed. There is no merit to exempt them from taxation, since such exemptions are not granted to secular corporations or businesses. Tax exemptions for religious institutions are one form of very severe discrimination against secularism, and should be forbidden by law where the law mandates a separation of church and state. Regarding article 2, the SJLP beleives there is no need for religious schooling. Schools should focus on practical matters, such as mathematics, language, literature, and teaching students basic living skills. Religious schooling goes against the basic tenets of tolerance by indoctrinating students into lives of backwards thinking and hatred. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Proposed: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:21:02, February 02, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Secularism in Public Places and Equality in Taxation |
| Message | These are two separate issues, and should probably be in two separate bills. Charitable donations, ie gifts, should in principle be tax free regardless of who they are made to. It is for that reason that we support the current law. Similarly, in accordance with the separation of church and state, the law should not have any special rules regarding religious schools. Banning them is equivalent to mandating them, and neither are allowable. |
| Date | 14:49:20, February 02, 2009 CET | From | Socialist Justice Left Party | To | Debating the Secularism in Public Places and Equality in Taxation |
| Message | The primary method of income for churches is through these so-called "donations". Therefore if they are going to be taxed that portion of the income should be taxed as it is a primary way of keeping the business going. |
| Date | 21:09:48, February 02, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Secularism in Public Places and Equality in Taxation |
| Message | If donations are not really donations, then they will have to pay income tax on them. Practically speaking of course, it doesn't matter too much, since no business pays income tax. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 113 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 387 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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