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Bill: Coup In Pontesi
Details
Submitted by[?]: HaLeumit Tikvah
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2708
Description[?]:
| "Yet again, Beiteynu must be forced to witness the failure of the Pontesian Royalty to rule for the good of their people. We must assume that the Imperialist will proceed in the same fashion they did last time they were trusted with too much power, and begin the persecution of Jews and other minorities. Unfortunately our already war-torn nation will be forced to bear the weight of these peoples clambering for freedom from oppression. We are therefore proposing the following measures to be applied to the Pontesian refugees." 1) Refugees fleeing from Pontesi shall be defined as fleeing 'Extreme circumstances', and allowed entrance to the nation, and shall be housed in refugee camps cited along the Pontesian border and maintained by the Beiteynuese army. 2) All Jewish refugees fleeing from Pontesi shall be fast-tracked towards gaining Beiteynuese citizenship. 3) Other refugees with skills or professions deemed needed by Beiteynu shall be offered nationality to themselves and their immediate family upon having successfully demonstrated their usefulness to Beiteynu. 4) This new influx of citizens risks creating a new security risk, and so we recommend the reintroduction of the identity card scheme in order to maintain law and order. 5) In accordance with current laws, any refugee found living outside their assigned refugee camp shall be immediately deported to Pontesi or any other nation that shall take them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Travel by nationals to foreign nations
Old value:: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Current: The nation issues passports on demand for any reason to its nationals
Proposed: The nation issues passports to nationals after an invasive security check.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting nationality (national of this state without implication of having citizenship rights).
Old value:: Anyone is able to claim nationality.
Current: Anyone is able to claim nationality.
Proposed: Anyone receives nationality but immigrants must pass a test to gain nationality.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Current: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:41:43, February 05, 2009 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Coup In Pontesi |
| Message | This should be opened to all refugees. |
| Date | 11:23:08, February 06, 2009 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Coup In Pontesi |
| Message | The reality is Beiteynu cannot afford to run refugee camps for all of Terras displaced. We must look after our own people first, and continue in our work to see Beiteynu regain her territory and standing. |
| Date | 21:20:01, February 06, 2009 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Coup In Pontesi |
| Message | We would like if non-pofits and private companies can run camps as well. |
| Date | 21:20:48, February 06, 2009 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the Coup In Pontesi |
| Message | OCC: I was just wondering, but I thought a coup was when the government was being over thrown, which it is not, just the cabinet is being filled with military officials. So is it still a coup? |
| Date | 22:33:13, February 06, 2009 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Coup In Pontesi |
| Message | OOC: Coups are generally committed by part of the State, using the existing power of the State, and don't neccessarily have to bring about a change in leadership, they just have to change the balance of power unconstitutionally. If, say, in the wake of 9/11 the US government were doing what Pontesi is now, wouldn't you call it a coup? I suppose the essential difference is that everything non-RP'd has to go through game mechanics, so coups in Particracys world would seem technically impossible. In particracy terms though, I think putting the army on the streets, giving it power of arrest,, enacting a state of emergency, shutting down the media, setting up detention facilities and putting in place a military government while effectively shutting down the legislature by limiting proposals is as close to a military coup d'etat as we can get. IC: "Private groups may contribute with donations, however we believe it safer due to the security risk posed by these camps to leave them in the care of the army." |
| Date | 22:50:29, February 06, 2009 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Coup In Pontesi |
| Message | OOC: Rather what I should say is that it doesn't have to lead to a complete change of leadership; for instance in Iran and Japan coups and attempted coups have taken place without the aim of removing the HoS, rather with the aim of strengthening their position, which I assume is part of the aim of the Pontesian one. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 200 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When forming a cabinet, try to include as few parties as possible, while still obtaining a majority of the seats. |
| Random quote: "The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." - Winston Churchill |