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Bill: Welfare Reform of 2719
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationale Demokratische Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2719
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state does not provide child benefit.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:48:50, March 01, 2009 CET | From |  Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Welfare Reform of 2719 |
| Message | The CLP and the HNP when they were around never even thought of trying to touch the child benefit laws and they were as radical devolutionists as you can get. Look of some of those countries who have these laws; they are either third-rate or their economy is sluggish. Hulstria is not and should not be in the same catagory at some of other nations. Its not about liberal or conservative here but its illogical to deny child benefits flat out. |
| Date | 07:06:12, March 01, 2009 CET | From | Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Welfare Reform of 2719 |
| Message | Just because a nation does not have child benefit, it doesn't mean we're going to go and become a so-called third rate country. It is stupid for the government to pay our citizens for the kids they have, all it will do is encourage poor people just to have more kids to make more money. |
| Date | 07:14:28, March 01, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Welfare Reform of 2719 |
| Message | Thats a close minded view of lower class Hulstrians. You think this law is just here to encourage poor citizens to have more kids and get more money? There may be a small miniority of people who do that but I'm sure the Ministry of Health and Social Services look into cases like that and make adjustments, you must think we're giving blank checks to people who has 50 kids without questioning anything. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 65 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 390 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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