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Bill: Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties
Details
Submitted by[?]: Free Thinking Tribes
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2727
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part I: Government.
Article 2
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part II: Legal System.
Article 3
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part III: General Rights.
Article 4
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part IV: Health and Education Rights.
Article 5
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part V: Expression Rights.
Article 6
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part VI: Labour Rights.
Article 7
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part VII: Personal Rights.
Article 8
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part VIII: Property Rights.
Article 9
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part IX: Discrimination.
Article 10
Withdraw from the Consitution of Tukarali Part X: Warfare.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:37:11, March 02, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | How can they be unconstitutional when they are in fact the constitution? That's nonsensical. |
| Date | 02:24:59, March 04, 2009 CET | From | Free Thinking Tribes | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | Nonsensical, perhaps, but these "treaties" were placed in order to ensure that certain parties would never taste defeat in elections when conservative parties (which the people favor) stood against them. It's simply a power grab. |
| Date | 06:42:09, March 04, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | Not at all. It was to protect the people from new parties who seem keen on destroying the Tukarali way of life. |
| Date | 05:01:25, March 05, 2009 CET | From | Free Thinking Tribes | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | How so? We come in opposing your ideas of limiting the voice of the people and not listening to their opinions and we are disturbing their way of life? |
| Date | 06:05:17, March 05, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | You are indeed, by trying to limit essential human rights, and destroy the modern liberal democracy that Tukarali has become. |
| Date | 03:51:47, March 06, 2009 CET | From | Free Thinking Tribes | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | that you have forced it to become. |
| Date | 05:54:40, March 06, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | That all states must become. You see, human rights are there to protect the minority from the majority, to protect the weak from the strong. That is why we must retain the constitution. |
| Date | 19:27:19, March 06, 2009 CET | From | Free Thinking Tribes | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | Except when the majority becomes oppressed by a minority. Then it is a dictatorship. |
| Date | 22:28:32, March 06, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | The majority is not oppressed in Tukarali. Also, that's probably an oligarchy, rather than a dictatorship. |
| Date | 03:31:59, March 17, 2009 CET | From | Free Thinking Tribes | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | Then watch as the majority gets their wish granted to repeal your power-grabbing "constitution" |
| Date | 05:08:11, March 17, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | This abolition is unconstitutional. |
| Date | 04:39:33, March 18, 2009 CET | From | Free Thinking Tribes | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | Save it. In Tukarali (and in Particracy as a whole), the courts have no jurisdiction over the laws or actions passed by the legislature. (Unless, of course, for RP reasons, you declared the Minister of Justice the controler of the courts, they would still tilt in favor of abolishing these treaties) |
| Date | 06:32:37, March 18, 2009 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Unconstutional Treaties |
| Message | Just because the Courts cannot do anything doesn't mean it is not unconstitutional. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 277 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 223 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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