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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of September 2729
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kalimat Allah
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2730
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Emir of Workers' and Peasants' Ahmadi Emirate of Talmoria chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the 
Kalimat Allah
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the 
Christen Demokratiese Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Democratic Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Christen Demokratiese Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Talmori Voodoo Movement
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Kalimat Allah
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Islami al Omal Taraf
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Kalimat Allah
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Kalimat Allah
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Christen Demokratiese Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Kalimat Allah
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Kalimat Allah
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:43:44, March 23, 2009 CET | From | National Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | Yeah this seems fair, the nation of domination have no elected members of the senate yet they get seats in the cabinet? Hmmmm who is the dictator now? |
| Date | 17:35:40, March 23, 2009 CET | From | Kalimat Allah | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | You confuse your rivals. It is the Democratic Party that lacks seat. They have been entrusted the position by the Asli Liberation Army. As the seat had originally been going to the ALA, this move can be seen as supported by the population represented by the ALA. |
| Date | 17:43:04, March 23, 2009 CET | From | National Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | Entrusted? who are you to "Entrust" people, the people of this country have the right to choose and they do this by voting that is the people entrusting. All the time that the NIP was in power, we were fairly and democratically elected as part of a representative democracy. WE represent 23.8% of the country by our ELECTED officials in the Senate. And you select a party that has 0.0% representation in the senate hmmmmm.... This seems fair. You cant decide that your representational population consent to you assigning non-elected politicians to cabinet positions. It's obsurd. "Government by Consent" |
| Date | 17:44:34, March 23, 2009 CET | From | National Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | The Democratic Party have no right to a seat in the Cabinet |
| Date | 18:04:41, March 23, 2009 CET | From | Talmori Voodoo Movement | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | ooc: NIP, you should learn some politics. You really should. If there is a wiki page with "Prime Ministers in democratic states that do not belong to any of coalition political party" just read it. Ministers, they can come from anywhere as long as majority of parliament accepts that. Where are you from? Just read your national constitution, does it say minister should be elected as senator to become a minister? |
| Date | 18:51:56, March 23, 2009 CET | From | Islami al Omal Taraf | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | OOC: To give an example of that, in the UK people there are five members of the cabinet who aren't MPs. IC: The Democratic Party have shown their support for moving Talmoria towards a just and equitable society numerous times in the past. Indeed, as they formed the parliamentary opposition to the NIP during your dictatorship, they have played a vital role in bringing the Asli people freedom, and deserve of a place in government. We have supported the Democratic Partys inclusion in this government out of a certainty that our supporters would want an important member of the liberation movement to be included. There is nothing undemocratic about this, as if the people disagree, then they are free to express that view by not voting for us at the next election. -Mukasa Petiri |
| Date | 22:34:09, March 23, 2009 CET | From | Kalimat Allah | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2729 |
| Message | Due to unfortunate circumstances involving the Talmori Voodoo Party, a new cabinet will have to soon be created. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 381 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 119 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Real-life places should not be referenced in Particracy. |
| Random quote: "Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?" - Thomas Jefferson |