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Bill: Adulthood
Details
Submitted by[?]: Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2731
Description[?]:
| This bill proposes that each person becomes an adult on the day of their 19th birthday and remains so until their death. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The way adulthood is determined.
Old value:: Adulthood is determined by religion.
Current: Adulthood is determined by a test.
Proposed: Adulthood is determined by age.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:30:59, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | We do not think it is fair that people should not be given the rights of an adult if they are not part of a certain religion. We believe that this is a form of discrimination that should be abolished. |
| Date | 17:39:22, March 25, 2009 CET | From | The Likatonian Imperium party | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | i will support but firstly what age? |
| Date | 17:44:57, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | What age would other parties deem satisfactory? We would probably say 19-20. |
| Date | 17:48:07, March 25, 2009 CET | From | The Likatonian Imperium party | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | i think it should be 18-19 |
| Date | 19:17:42, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | OOC: Sorry to rain on your parade - but this Bill, as it stands, is meaningless. The 'favour text' (which here, simply reads 'adulthood') needs to contain an age BEFORE you bring it to a vote, because otherwise, you'd theoretically need to bring it to a vote AGAIN to pick a SPECIFIC age - and you can't bring the same Bill to vote twice in succession, without changing the parameters in between. i.e. You'd have to submit a NEW bill that changed the determination of adulthood to something OTHER than age, and then change it back. The Bill, submitted as it is - means that adulthood is 'determined by age' - but not by any SPECIFIC age. Thus - I could determine it means you're an adult at the point of conception, the LIP could determine it means 18 years old, and the LCW could determine it means you're an adult at the age at which you die. All would be equally valid, under this law as is. |
| Date | 19:20:26, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | IC: The most obvious mark of adulthood, is the ability to embrace truth when clear evidence is provided. Teenagers conventionally fail to make these connections, and you end up with pregnant cheerleaders to show for it. Thus, since it is obvious that Immeressen IS the living embodiment of divinity, incarnated in Likatonia - it is pre-eminently sensible to assume that being a member of the Immeressent church exemplifies the transition from childhood to adulthood. |
| Date | 20:48:25, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | OOC: Yes you are right, we probably should have addressed that fairly major issue whilst the bill was still in the debate phase. |
| Date | 20:50:28, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Neo Kanist Rite Party of Sorbanika | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | IC: This bill proposes that a person is determined to be an adult from the day of their 19th Birthday until the day they die. OOC: unless they have some kind of a Benjamin Button thing going on, then i'm not really sure what happens. |
| Date | 21:25:59, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | OOC: Well, I guess they'd be an adult for 19 years, most of which, they'd spend as children? That's gotta mess with your head. :D IC: Obviously, we oppose. The simple, everyday presence of Immeressen in our lives, and in the Halls of Likatonian governance, forbids us from doing otherwise. |
| Date | 21:26:36, March 25, 2009 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | OOC: Also - thanks for sorting out that age thing before re-submitting. :) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 389 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 361 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Any RP law granting extraordinary "emergency powers" or dictator-like powers to a government must be passed by at least a 2/3rds majority, but (like all RP laws) may always be overturned by a simple majority vote of the legislature. |
| Random quote: "The state is nothing but an instrument of oppression of one class by another, no less so in a democratic republic than in a monarchy." - John Smith |