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Bill: Pre-Emptive Defense Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Patriot Conservative
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2126
Description[?]:
| As there are certainly cases where our nation must be forced to use strategic warfare to hit a nation before it is too late, we this propose that our nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons for the purpose of Defense. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:09:03, October 15, 2005 CET | From |  Solentian Corporate Communist Party | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | We disagree. Pre-emptive nuking will not solve anything. Don't get us wrong, we are miltiarists in the extreme, however thermo-nuclear weapons exist as a deterrant, not an active weapon. |
| Date | 05:48:59, October 15, 2005 CET | From | United Centrists | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | We agree with the SCCP. Pre-emptive strikes with nuclear weapons could cause serious repurcussions. Weapons capable of such horrific destruction should be reserved as a deterrant and defensive option. |
| Date | 06:04:22, October 15, 2005 CET | From | National Socialists | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | You have our support. This will make any agressor think twice before making any moves whatsoever, even far beyond our borders. We cannot be bound by law to wait until we are wiped out first. |
| Date | 06:44:06, October 15, 2005 CET | From | Solentian Corporate Communist Party | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | So let's just pre-emptively strike those who we perceive as enemies? What a ludicrous proposal. |
| Date | 06:57:38, October 15, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Conservative | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | Would you prefer to wait until it's too late and we have lost thousands of people? If we have sufficient evidence that a nation is a threat they must be dealth with immediately. |
| Date | 06:57:45, October 15, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Conservative | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | Would you prefer to wait until it's too late and we have lost thousands of people? If we have sufficient evidence that a nation is a threat they must be dealt with immediately. |
| Date | 15:24:46, October 15, 2005 CET | From | National Socialists | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | We wish to back this up in a more common scenario: let us hope we will never have to use them, but what country would you attack first? A country with the current policy or a country with the proposed unchainment. |
| Date | 00:54:53, October 16, 2005 CET | From | Solentian Corporate Communist Party | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | This only makes us a target for nations that also believe in pre-emptive strikes and the NS and PC parties are incompetent in the field of military strategy with this proposal. |
| Date | 05:06:39, October 16, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Conservative | To | Debating the Pre-Emptive Defense Bill |
| Message | Actually, it is you who is incompetent in military strategy. By being known as a nation unafraid to defend itself with force, we will not be bullied around and invaded. If we listened to you, a nation could invade our nation without dropping a nuclear missile and we wouldn't be able to defend ourselves by dropping a nuclear warhead on their nation. That is ridiculous. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 258 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 199 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 243 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "The whole uncivilized bunch on the opposite benches can get stuffed." - Craig Warwick, former Dranian politician |