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Bill: Equality in the Military Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Left
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2739
Description[?]:
| The United Left believes in equal rights and opportunities for all. The military should be no exception to that rule. For this reason, we propose the following legislation. Respectfully submitted by the Central Committee of the United Left, Liam Spektor, Maren Hensley, Cairo Fitzgerald, Helena Guylos, and Marek Collins |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:05:30, April 07, 2009 CET | From |  United Left | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | The CLCR has often stated that they are against any kind of interference in the lives of the People. They believe themselves to be champions of the rights of the individual, even to the point that they will defend bestiality, even while such practices are dangerous to the animals and citizens forced into such situations. This being the case, they should have no problem supporting this legislation, which would allow for equality for homosexuals in the military. Respectfully submitted, Zeke Prozen, UL Candidate for Defence |
| Date | 22:06:52, April 07, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Restoration Party | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | We thank the UL for their sentiments regarding the beliefs of our party. And we wish to thank you for your efforts representing the left-of-center elements of Rutania. However, we cannot support this legislation. This is not a moral issue, or meant to be a matter of right or wrong. The OP have always believe the the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is best for the military. The reasoning for this is a matter of effectiveness. We do not wish for the men and women of our military being uneasy around their comrades in battle because their fellow soldier is openly gay. On the other hand, we do not wish to prevent homosexuals from joining the military. The current policy doesn't prevent that, it just asks that the individual wishing to join keeps their sexuality to themselves. Our armed forces ask this of all their members. The Defense Ministry and the OP do not wish for this to be a party issue, but rather an institutional issue. -Bill Cooper, Defense Minister |
| Date | 22:24:16, April 07, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Elitist Party | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | The current issue was already raised previously but we have not reached a consensus at that times. The REP will support this bill as a past initiator. Victoria von Bruckenthal Vice-Chairman, REP |
| Date | 23:12:49, April 07, 2009 CET | From | United Left | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | The United Left thanks the REP for their support. Further, we understand the concerns of the OP, but we believe that viewing everyone equally and upholding the rights of all citizens to declare and support whichever sexual orientation they wish, is more important than the comfort of a few homophobic soldiers. Do these men and women who would feel uncomfortable around gays and lesbians really believe that homosexuals are going to walk through the barracks hitting on everyone they see? Why are the feelings of the few able to sway the policy of the nation? I agree that our soldiers should be getting their job done and not worrying about each others' sexual preferences. And for that reason, I feel like those who are uncomfortable should be told that they aren't to worry about such things. Perform your services to the Commonwealth. Focus on that. Heterosexuals are allowed to be as heterosexual as they'd like without reprimand. However, homosexuals are kicked out of the army for merely expressing who they are. This is unacceptable. The UL demands equality. And possibly funding to the Defence Department for counseling for our more close-minded soldiers. Respectfully submitted, Zeke Prozen, UL Candidate for Defence |
| Date | 23:35:15, April 08, 2009 CET | From | United Left | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | As has often been said, "Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or death say they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly, [homosexuals] should not be used as soldiers; [they] should be used as weapons." Respectfully submitted, Zeke Prozen, UL Candidate for Defence |
| Date | 05:08:33, April 09, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Heritage Party | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | We are firmly opposed to this legislation, as it is simply an attempt to impose homosexuality on society and its elements. It is an attempt at social engineering; to undermine existing institutions and associations - which are fundamentally important to civilized society - such as marriage and the family, and to manufacture a society where these things are made redundant for the sake of the abstract notions of 'equality' and 'tolerance'. No society in the history of civilization has existed in which some form of sexual behaviour, traditionally considered morally indecent and perverse by custom and social consensus, was not regulated or outlawed. We have no reason to believe that such a society can exist, or that it would be inherently desirable. Furthermore, from a practical standpoint, homosexuality would provide an unnecessary destraction in the military, and may cause tension and prejudice to surface. The military should be united and strong - any form of division, on the grounds of sexual differences, should be treated as a detriment. |
| Date | 16:08:56, April 09, 2009 CET | From | spencer green Party | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | ok just vote |
| Date | 17:20:33, April 09, 2009 CET | From | spencer green Party | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | this time i see good intention in on UL s part and its a bill i agree to so you might be surprised but we vote YES |
| Date | 01:13:56, April 10, 2009 CET | From | Popular Socialist Liberation Movement | To | Debating the Equality in the Military Act |
| Message | Strongly support. All our citizens are equal and should have equal rights. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 120 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 175 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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