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Bill: Protection of the Citizens Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Roccato Anarcho-Syndicalist Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2746
Description[?]:
We do not believe that lethal weapons are ever truly necessary for apprehending suspects. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 01:22:21, April 23, 2009 CET | From | House Lusk-Nat'l Syndicalist Party (UM) | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | They are truly necessary if the suspect is heavily armed, which is legal under the current FSA law. |
Date | 01:40:57, April 23, 2009 CET | From | Roccato Anarcho-Syndicalist Union | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | No man is truly free wherever he is outgunned by the state. No, the RASU prefers it that way. |
Date | 05:44:31, April 23, 2009 CET | From | Federalist Minarcho-Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | The FMCP would support giving citizens more liberties with regards to bearing arms rather than this measure. We oppose. |
Date | 12:32:33, April 23, 2009 CET | From | Modern Revolutionary Socialist Party | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | . Currently, a number of lethal weapons are available to the public so this would mean the police were effectively unable to carry out their duties. If the police are unable to maintain law and order then other people will start doing it and whoever is the most brutal, whoever has the most guns will be in charge. |
Date | 02:02:29, April 24, 2009 CET | From | Roccato Anarcho-Syndicalist Union | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | If the police are able to control the public via force, the laws cease to have any relevance. It is only when the public is more powerful than the state that the state has any compunction to follow the law. |
Date | 05:12:05, April 24, 2009 CET | From | Federalist Minarcho-Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | If the public is more powerful than the state the public then has no compunction to follow the law. We propose arming both equally. Checks and balances. |
Date | 10:59:52, April 24, 2009 CET | From | Roccato Anarcho-Syndicalist Union | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | The law exists for the benefit of the public, not the benefit of the state. As long as the law continues to benefit the public, they will follow it out of self-interest. As soon as it does not, they should not and will not follow it. |
Date | 18:42:02, April 24, 2009 CET | From | Federalist Minarcho-Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | The public will not benefit from a law that nobody follows. |
Date | 22:00:16, April 24, 2009 CET | From | Roccato Anarcho-Syndicalist Union | To | Debating the Protection of the Citizens Act |
Message | The public will follow a law from which they stand to benefit. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||
yes | Total Seats: 102 | ||||||
no |
Total Seats: 549 | ||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 99 |
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