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Bill: Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2755
Description[?]:
| The FP believes that our current policy on religion is potentially discriminatory, in particular to immigrants of extreme minority belief whose religion is too small to have been recognised by the state and that the banning of faith is a hamfisted way of supressing subversive religious organisations which is in violation of freedom of conscience. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government selectively screens which religions are permitted to send missionaries to the nation. Certain religions are approved and travel is unregulated.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Current: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Proposed: Religious organizations are not permitted to actively promote themselves or advertise, however evangelism is permitted by individuals.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Current: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Proposed: Religious taxation policy is left to the local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The remuneration of ministers of religion shall be left up to the local governments.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:38:28, May 10, 2009 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill |
| Message | Regarding article 1 and 2, we feels that religion advertising should not be controlled by the government, but that a certain religion such as a cult group Schultzism in Beiteynu should be forbidden from entering our nation because of their disrespect of the law of the Empire. Article 4, 5, and 6 are not acceptable to us, we don't seeks to interfere in anyway with religion practice in Pontesi. Article 3 is promising, but we don't see a need for heavy regulation and will vote for it if regulation aganist it is drop. |
| Date | 17:11:45, May 10, 2009 CET | From | Federalist Party | To | Debating the Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill |
| Message | On the subject of article 1, surely a person-by-person system leaves the state with the power to exclude foreign Schultzists. Secondly your argument against 1 & 2 clearly contradict that which you have against 4, 5 & 6, what is excluding Schultzism if not an interference with religion? Finally how is the banning of individual evangelism (where it does not cause harm, inconvenience or intimidation in its intended target audience) in any way conscienable to a party which claims to be democratic? How can voters be educated enough to rule themselves when the government decides what people can and cannot say to them? |
| Date | 19:09:33, May 10, 2009 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill |
| Message | Article 4,5, and 6 are intervention of "religion" while article 1 and 2 should be kept as intervetion aganist "cult" group. We also see no reason for the party that seeks to intervene in local election to claim any right to judge any other party stance on "democracy". It is our believe that the government is required to ensure that no false teaching or "cult" teaching is spread within Pontesi especially when it is moved aganist the law of Pontesi. It is not a matter of democracy, but a matter of national security here. Suppression of cult group is necessary to protect Pontesi during this age of tension between Barmenistan and Beiteynu. |
| Date | 12:26:43, May 11, 2009 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill |
| Message | This is an outrageous bill which seeks to curtail the very long history of religious celebration in Pontesi - we say NO, No, No! |
| Date | 02:05:05, May 12, 2009 CET | From | Democratic Marxist Party (BIC) | To | Debating the Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill |
| Message | There must be a way to compromise on this issue my friends. One Nation, Democrats what would be the most you are willing to give? And Federalists what is the least you are willing to take? |
| Date | 11:57:52, May 12, 2009 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Further Liberalisation of Religious Policy Bill |
| Message | We can agree to article 4, but without restriction to the school. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 295 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 105 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
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