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Bill: Social Justice
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tokundski Nacionalisti
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2128
Description[?]:
| A paternalist attempt to aid the poor and the needy. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Current: The government subsidizes private enterprises that face bankruptcy.
Proposed: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the funding of libraries.
Old value:: The national government provides local governments with funding to operate libraries.
Current: Funding and operation of libraries is left entirely to local governments.
Proposed: The national government controls a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:44:48, October 18, 2005 CET | From |  Zapatista Party | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Once again, we oppose the privatisation of campanies! We also beleive article 2 is fine, unless you want to argue that? As for Article 3, we beleive it needs to be higher as most minimum wage jobs are mundane factory jobs, or, decrease the working hours. As an insentive for people to stay in their jobs. |
| Date | 15:47:55, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Tokundski Nacionalisti | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Article One takes us closer to socialism than the current law. We proposed article 2, so if you support it what is there to argue about? Article 3, you told the Objectivists not to expect change overnight, yet you yourself do not appear to be in favour of a slow but progressive policy change. |
| Date | 15:54:22, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Zapatista Party | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Mistake again, was meant to say... We also beleive article 2 in pointless, unless you want to argue that? |
| Date | 15:57:13, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Tokundski Nacionalisti | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | So increasing literacy and education is pointless. We know that the Blacks hate the poor and the working class, but this is taking it to a new level. |
| Date | 16:09:50, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Zapatista Party | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | How? We have libraries. What does it matter if its state or goverment run? |
| Date | 16:19:19, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Tokundski Nacionalisti | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Providing local government with the funds, as with all federalism, does not mean that the funs are adequate, nor does it ensure that the money is spent on th right books. If the government has control, the money will be spent more generously and hopefully more effectively. Remember national government always overspends. |
| Date | 16:40:52, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Objectivist Party | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Yay for socialism , one of the most thoroughly discredited ideas out there! |
| Date | 18:12:54, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Tokundski Nacionalisti | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | yay for socialism, one of the most thoroughlu discredited ideas out there! |
| Date | 19:42:03, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Actually, I agree with this bill. |
| Date | 00:07:19, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Tokundski Nacionalisti | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | the trumpets sound |
| Date | 04:55:00, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Modern Economic Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | we are okay with 2 but not with 1 or 3 |
| Date | 18:16:18, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Zapatista Party | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | Thats some rich comments coming from the racists and Libertairians! |
| Date | 22:07:11, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Tokundski Nacionalisti | To | Debating the Social Justice |
| Message | racists can be socialist, racists can help the poor, heck most racists are poor. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 112 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 138 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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