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Bill: Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor
Details
Submitted by[?]: Covenanters (IA)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2129
Description[?]:
| We've already agreed to change the HoG to 'Lord Chancellor' as this works as a job title and as a courtesy title/name prefix. I will start a bill to discuss the other changes later. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: The Right Honourable
Current: Prime Minister
Proposed: Lord Chancellor
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:41:42, October 18, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | too long for a title, just lord chancellor would be ok. |
| Date | 01:24:17, October 19, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | Polish? Aren't they a nation of axe-murderers? |
| Date | 02:16:30, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | No. They are a nation of enlightened peoples who have for centuries advanced the causes of Civil Liberty, Freedom, and Democracy. In FACT, Rzeczpospolita was the name of the Polish-Lituanian Commonwealth; which for a century was the most powerful nation in the world, and was the largest nation in Europe. |
| Date | 06:43:25, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | The Polish I know aren't axe-murderers. They might be willing to take a baseball bat to christian fundamentalists and evangelicals, but that is just because people trying to convert you, or telling you your going to hell, is just plain irritating. |
| Date | 15:21:17, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | Some of the most devout catholics I know are Poles. We have Polish speaking catholic churches where I live. Anyway: any suggestions for a new motto and does anyone know what the bird is in the flag? |
| Date | 02:29:54, October 20, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | The last pope was a Pole. Was he an axe-murderer, then? |
| Date | 10:49:26, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | UCP: Yes he was, he should be a saint, and was the greatest pope since the first. He was also not an axe-murderer, since as a member of a clergy, he would be against murdering axes. =D DUP: On the motto, what about translating my previously proposed motto into polish. |
| Date | 15:21:56, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | We should translate the current motto into Polish. |
| Date | 15:50:19, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | We feel the current position of only the largest party being able to propose a cabinet is untenable. We have two opposing coalitions, one with a majority, and the largest party isn't in either. The majority coalition should be able to propose a cabinet as only they can vote one through. This clearly isn't an option in the game (the closest would be all parties and we would have far too many proposals). I suggest that once the elected monarchy is up and running the HoS should be the one to propose cabinets again: with an understanding that the monarch is not political and that as a formality will ask the leader of any majority coalition (being the largest party in that coalition, the Rednecks in our case) to form a government. Where there is no majority coalition a national coalition will have to be negotiated by the parties in a normal bill which can then be proposed by the King. Any thoughts on that? |
| Date | 02:48:42, October 21, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | Power to the strongest COALITION. Not the biggest party. You know it makes sense. (And the only TRUE democratic way). |
| Date | 06:34:53, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | The DUP's proposal on coalition cabinets makes sense, but what if the king doesn't do that. Maybe we should add that if the king doesn't propose the cabinet of the majority coaltion, every other party would vote for an early election. This would provide an incentive for the king to be apolitical. |
| Date | 13:45:57, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Change of title from The Right Honourable to Lord Chancellor |
| Message | Let's just vote on the Lord Chancellor bit for now. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 502 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 248 |
| Random fact: In cases where a party has no seat, the default presumption should be that the party is able to contribute to debates in the legislature due to one of its members winning a seat at a by-election. However, players may collectively improvise arrangements of their own to provide a satisfying explanation for how parties with no seats in the legislature can speak and vote there. |
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