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Bill: Social Security Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: LibCom Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2130
Description[?]:
| Our citizens are entitled to a decent standard of living, regardless of whether enough work is available. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:31:20, October 19, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | Since we now have a generous minimum wage, increasing the guaranteed minimum income will in no way deter people from working. Also, the increased consumption will boost our economy, leading to more investment and more jobs. |
| Date | 20:03:43, October 19, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | How will this be paid for? |
| Date | 02:03:31, October 20, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | That question must of course be addressed to minister Frie. However, the Head of State's department seems rather bloated. And of course we've already mentioned the boost to the economy this would cause. |
| Date | 04:14:10, October 20, 2005 CET | From |  Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | We feel this plus the min wage law will lead to rampant inflation. |
| Date | 18:48:20, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | You know.. I'm going to vote against this, because when pressed for a cost estimate of this bill to the Malivian government, the Libcom ducked the question and referred it to the HOS, who didn't propose this bill. I agree with the Libcom on one issue...this bill being a boost. Except it is going to boost spending exponentially, and result in one of two things.. extremely high taxes, or alot of borrowing to pay for this.. both of which are not in this nations best interest. So yes, this bill, as the PP stated, will lead to inflation. |
| Date | 00:42:45, October 21, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | We referred the question (of how this will be financed) to the Finance Minister, not the HoS. As to inflation: it's not always a bad thing. In this case, government spending and consumption expenditure will increase, thus increasing aggregate demand, and hence leading to economic growth and inflation. The economic growth will lead to a reduction in unemployment, and hence a reduction in government spending on social security, and it'll all level out again. So the short-term spending will lead to significant gains in the long term. |
| Date | 04:32:14, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | If there is not enough work availible, our government should buy up the excess workforce for extra government projects. |
| Date | 02:24:55, October 24, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Social Security Act |
| Message | If there are government projects for people to work on, the yes, of course we should employ them. That, however, is a seperate issue. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 21 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 214 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 66 |
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| Random quote: "[The people] may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel." - Carl W. Buechner |