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Bill: Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2775
Description[?]:
| WHEREAS, the monarchy of the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria is widely respected and beloved by the people. WHEREAS, the members of the Imperial Diet should show the loyalty to the Emperor. RESOLVED, that the members of the Imperial Diet and employees of this government shall make the following oath of Allegiance prior to taking their positions: I swear/affirm allegiance to His/Her Most Illustrious and Lutheran Majesty, to the Constitution of the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria, and to the Laws of the Imperial Crownlands. I swear/affirm that I will faithfully perform the duties my office lays upon me, and will act in the best interests of all the People of Greater Hulstria. So help me God almighty!/This I declare and affirm. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:12:13, June 17, 2009 CET | From |  Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | Makes sense to have one. |
| Date | 06:12:29, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | I do not know if this is already required or not, but if not, here it is. Also, I want to include an actual oath. Any suggestions? |
| Date | 07:31:24, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Kolonial Partei | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | Agree Sorry, can't think of anything creative for the oath, however. |
| Date | 07:40:46, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | I swear/affirm allegiance to His/Her Most Illustrious and Lutheran Majesty, to the Constitution of the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria, and to the Laws of the Imperial Crownlands. I swear/affirm that I will faithfully perform the duties my office lays upon me. So help me God almighty!/This I declare and affirm. Alternative phrasing for those who cannot swear due to (lack of) religion. |
| Date | 18:07:20, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | I would say drop the "and Lutheran Majesty." |
| Date | 18:24:43, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | That can't be done as "Lutheran Majesty" is apart of his title. |
| Date | 18:26:16, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | For reference, Kaiser Franz VI's full title: His Imperial and Most Illustrious Lutheran Majesty, Franz VI, Defender of the Faith, by the Grace of God, Emperor of Hulstria, King of Mitrania and Budenlar; Grand Duke of Hilgar and Kuratha, Elector of Tinako; Palatine of Phönix and Flieder; Duke of Marchau, Straussia, and Traugott; Grand Prince of Vorm; Margrave of New Yodukan, New Luthor, and New Liore; Princely Count of Rothingren, Graaffsberg, and Veilchen; Prince of Hennersdam, and Korriel |
| Date | 19:08:37, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | Not exactly the greatest situation for a Mormon Party, but how about this: I do solemly swear/affirm my allegiance to His/Her Most Illustrious and Lutheran Majesty and to the People of the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria, and will, with all my power and strength, preserve and defend the laws and Constition of this nation, and will act in the best interests of all the People of Greater Hulstria, whom I have been elected to serve. |
| Date | 21:59:33, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Kolonial Partei | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | We support the CLA's version, with the BZH's inclusion of the full title of the Kaiser. Also, we oppose the secular bit at the end. This is a Lutheran nation, and we have a state Lutheran church. There's nothing wrong with including it in the oath. |
| Date | 23:54:02, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | We support the secular option in the oath. The state church is voluntary and this nation can be considered secular because of that fact. |
| Date | 03:37:52, June 18, 2009 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | We could never include the full title, its just impracticle. So who supports what? |
| Date | 05:32:09, June 18, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | I swear/affirm allegiance to His/Her Most Illustrious and Lutheran Majesty, to the Constitution of the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria, and to the Laws of the Imperial Crownlands. I swear/affirm that I will faithfully perform the duties my office lays upon me, and will act in the best interests of all the People of Greater Hulstria. So help me God almighty!/This I declare and affirm. --- There needs to be a secularized version, otherwise non-Christian and non-swearing Christians, could not take the oath and could not take their seats. |
| Date | 05:35:38, June 18, 2009 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | I agree about the secular version. I would like there to be a pledge of loyalty to the citizens of that person's constituency and the country as a whole, between the one of the Kaiser and the Constitution. |
| Date | 06:07:45, June 18, 2009 CET | From | Kolonial Partei | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | Why should Hulstria adopt secularism? We clearly have an established church, and thus need not be secular. Non-Christians have chosen to live in Hulstria, fully knowing that we are a devoutly Christian nation. If they cannot deal with that, then who cares? |
| Date | 18:02:00, June 18, 2009 CET | From | Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | The CLA's version is the best. Just because there's an option of a Godly and non-Godly five word sentence does not mean Hulstria is adopting secularism. And, there may be an established church, but as said before, its voluntary. Not all of Hulstria is devoutly Christian. |
| Date | 05:10:29, June 19, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | We are not adopting secularism, but providing a non-Christian option for non-Christians whether they be irreligous or of a different faith. |
| Date | 02:31:39, June 22, 2009 CET | From | Leutes Kommunistische Liga | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | We do not believe that our citizens should have to pledge allegiance to any man/woman or power in Kien. |
| Date | 02:31:56, June 22, 2009 CET | From | Leutes Kommunistische Liga | To | Debating the Oath of Allegiance Act of 2772 |
| Message | *employees |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 429 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 111 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 185 |
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