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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of February 2773
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Tory Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2773
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Luthori Tory Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:02:42, June 17, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 2773 |
| Message | LDP of Luthori Secretary to the Imperial Diet, the Rt Hon. Dyson Bush: "Mr Speaker, It is with regret that the LDP of Luthori must, for the second time in six months, vote against a cabinet proposal from the Luthori Tory Party. I must remind the LTP that one of the conditions set out by the LDP of Luthori in September last year was that no cabinet would be supported by the Party if it did not contain the Constitutionalist Imperial League. This condition still applies. I yield." LDP of Luthori Chairman, the Rt Hon. Sir Harry McCormack: "Mr Speaker, It is due to the extraordinary circumstances of late within Luthori politics that warrants this address to the Imperial Diet. Several points have been discussed within the LDP of Luthori Executive Council over the six months preceding this proposal in regards to the Luthori Tory Party and the ruling Government coalition. The Executive Council, chaired by myself, is unanimous in its opposition to this latest cabinet proposal. Whilst some of our conditions have been met, others have not. I have two issues which I would like to express to the LTP. One, after the way our negotiations were met by the LTP in the September 2772 Cabinet Proposal, we're reluctant to "jump into bed" with the LTP so to speak. Our representative's words to the Imperial Diet were met with contempt and disrespect, traits which should not be a feature of Luthori politics. We do not believe the statement of our Secretary to the Imperial Diet was treated appropriately by our learned colleagues and that fact makes it difficult for us to even consider any sort of agreement between the two Parties. Two, and this sort of ties in with my first point, the Luthori Tory Party belittles the requests of the LDP of Luthori as we have two - yes, just two - seats less than them in the Imperial Diet. What they do not appear to understand is that, although they may have the largest number of seats, they are not the official ruling Government of Luthori. The long-lasting coalition between the LDP of Luthori and the Constitutionalist Imperial League maintains its control of the Government and thus any negotiations over the Cabinet will take place between our two Parties. For this very reason, it seems ironic that it is the LTP making demands over what cabinet positions the LDP of Luthori should rightfully hold. Had the LTP treated our previous requests with the respect they deserved, the LDP of Luthori may have been more interested in a compromise allowing the LTP entry into the ruling coalition. To the Imperial Diet as a whole, the key message I am wishing to convey is that we must all treat each other and each others views with courtesy, respect and fairness. We cannot allow our disagreements over policy, power and politics to result in a disfunctional government that is unable to guarantee the safety, protection and welfare of our citizens. One thing that I, as a member of the LDP of Luthori, have always held in great pride was the ability of my party to work so closely and happily with the Constitutionalist Imperial League despite some vast policy differences. Although we do not agree on certain policies, we are both committed to ensuring that all citizens of Luthori are happy, safe and free from oppression. An ideal Diet would be one where all Parties could get along with such respect and courtesy. It is on that note that I retreat to my seat and await a response from my colleagues at the Constitutionalist Imperial League and the Luthori Tory Party. I yield." |
| Date | 07:12:51, June 18, 2009 CET | From | Constitutionalist Imperial League (IA) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 2773 |
| Message | Imperial Seal-Bearer Lord John Rannigan stood up and addressed the Diet: "Mr Speaker, His Majesty will continue to be most displeased with the Tory Party for its refusal to include His Majesty's representatives in the CIL. While He respects the Tory Party's right to propose whatever coalition they wish, they should not be surprised when Imperial generosity does not reflect on them. In addition, we continue to thank our allies in the LDP for their loyalty. I yield." OOC: As per certain reforms, the title of Imperial Seal-Bearer was given to the Speaker of Parliament, who is also the representative of the emperor and a member of whatever party represents the crown (the CIL in this case). See the wiki under Constitution for further details. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 85 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 115 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Players using inactive accounts and/or accounts from outside nations may only propose bills and/or contribute to discussions, whether IC (in-character) or OOC (out-of-character) with the general consent of the players in the nation. |
| Random quote: "What is conservatism? Is it not the adherence to the old and tried against the new and untried?" - Abraham Lincoln |