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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2129
Description[?]:
The AAP believes that, in these troubled times, Likatonia needs to beef up our defence industry... and allow ourselves the RIGHT to use a First Strike, even if we never plan to exercise that 'right'. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in retaliation to any attack.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 05:43:53, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Front for State Prosperity | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | I can't support this. A first strike doctrine would make us look like an aggressor, when really, what we're after is the deterrent of Mutually Assured Destruction. |
Date | 14:29:55, October 20, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | We cannot support this, as it has the potential to damage our international reputation and trade potentials. |
Date | 20:29:20, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | The AAP would like to point out that our neighbour in Keymon seems to suffer no such stigma, despite having access to First Strike for decades. It seems not to have harmed their international reputation OR trade potential... and the Likatonian Government has not (to our recollection) ever talked about actions AGAINST Keymon... so they cannot be considered THAT great a threat. Also - just because we would reserve the RIGHT to Strike First, that doesn't mean we WANT TO strike first. However, the current legislation means that, even if there is a massed army on our border, and some new Weapon of Mass Distraction pointed openly accross our bow... we cannot respond, except by brandishing our stockpiles. The AAP believes we must, at LEAST, have the 'right' to hit First, when NEEDED. |
Date | 20:31:06, October 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | The AAP would alos like to expand a little on one of our points. If a neighbour develops a Weapon of Mass Destruction that is NOT nuclear, biological or chemical - we have NO 'right', under our current legislation, to order a WMD strike against that agressor - even if they USE their new technology ON US. |
Date | 00:39:27, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | The AAP brings up a valid point with the "non-NBC" WMD threat. |
Date | 06:33:51, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Representative Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | The use of WMDs should be avoided if at all possible. This law would give a future government the power to use WMDs for any reason, which is not acceptable. |
Date | 14:02:40, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | AAP: you have just invalidated your own argument, as far as Keymon is concerned. You say their international image has not been sullied, but this is just one example of laws which you and others have attempted to pass on the basis of the threat posed by them. Therefore even though there has been no agression on either side we are very wary of them and are passing laws accordingly. If we had first strike laws in place, this is how we would be viewed by other countries - with ultimate distrust, encouraging them to up their military power, and effectively starting an arms race across the continent. |
Date | 16:10:10, October 21, 2005 CET | From | Front for State Prosperity | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | The LPE's point is the nail in the coffin for our vote against this radical legislation. |
Date | 04:46:16, October 22, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - National Security (vii) |
Message | On the contrary, the AAP feels that the AAP is just about the ONLY party in our locality that sees a risk in our heavily armed neighbour to the west. Everyone else just seems to smile and nod at the tinpot general regime just off the coast. And, as the AAP pointed out - we are hurting ourselves in the long run, with regard to NON-NBC weaponry. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 183 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 317 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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