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Bill: Firearm Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democratic Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2790
Description[?]:
| It is the belief of the UPF that firearms, guns, are the very essence of crime in this nation. We believe that by giving guns to citizens it does not help them personally tackle crime, but it makes crimes easier. They must be made illegal immediatly! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Current: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Proposed: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:58:00, July 18, 2009 CET | From |  National Patriots Party | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | We feel that the freedom to bare arms is something that should be protected at all times. |
| Date | 17:34:24, July 18, 2009 CET | From | United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | We disagree |
| Date | 17:35:12, July 18, 2009 CET | From | United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | It is shown that in countries with no such right, the violent crimes involving firearms is lower. We must leave the barbaric ways of running around with weapons. Why should we, have we no trust in our nations security forces?? |
| Date | 17:53:39, July 18, 2009 CET | From | National Patriots Party | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | If you take away guns can we still use swords? And if you take away guns all you are doing is increasing the crime committed with knives. Would you take away knives as well from your citizens because a few bad apples ruined it for everyone else? Besides with a police force backed by the military and allowed to use military grade weapons anyone that may own a gun will realize that the guns we sell on the street are nothing like that of our police. |
| Date | 21:13:56, July 18, 2009 CET | From | United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | *Shakes head* |
| Date | 21:30:08, July 18, 2009 CET | From | National Patriots Party | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | A nation where the people are allowed to own guns allows a safer and content nation. Besides only fascist like unarmed peasants. |
| Date | 13:02:59, July 20, 2009 CET | From | United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | We supported you bill on the nation defense force as a compromise, we hope that you shall thus support this bill. |
| Date | 19:40:22, July 21, 2009 CET | From | DemocraticRepublican Party | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | im sorry im going more to patriots side on this one its a right |
| Date | 22:12:34, July 21, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | What does it mean by professionally required? That could mean anything. Perhaps people need to carry them in order to keep the shooting range business afloat and as a result all need to carry it professionally. Also our gun corporations are facing enough trouble with the new tax hikes. Finally should remain a general right for all citizens to hold a firearm for their own protection or amusement (so long as they have no mental illness or violent history). Making guns illegal will simply put the guns into the black market and as a result make sure nation more dangerous in the end. |
| Date | 22:53:39, July 21, 2009 CET | From | United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | Well, have fun with the streets full of blood :) |
| Date | 15:03:31, July 22, 2009 CET | From | National Patriots Party | To | Debating the Firearm Bill |
| Message | A professional criminal can and will receive a gun no matter how large our police force is, how adequately trained it is, no matter how much fire power you give to the police and military there is always a way for a criminal to get a gun it has been proven time and time again. If a criminal has a gun and goes into a persons home kills the husband rapes the wife and does who knows what to the children and then steals a large sum of money and jewels from the house then turns around and kills the family the fact remains he had a gun and the family that should of had one to protect itself did not. The right to protect ones family outweighs the right to be treated as a criminal when you are not. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 214 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 536 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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