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Bill: Foreign Policy Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alorian Confederation of Labor
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2795
Description[?]:
| The well-off nation of Aloria should help support less fortunate nations. Also immigration needs to be cracked down on to protect jobs |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Proposed: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government only gives aid for disaster relief in foreign countries.
Current: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:46:05, July 29, 2009 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | Would the ACL consider removing Article 3, for the security of our people? Other than that the NCP would support the ACL's proposal. |
| Date | 04:28:47, July 30, 2009 CET | From | Alorian Confederation of Labor | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | Article 2 you mean? |
| Date | 05:00:15, July 30, 2009 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | The NCP means the article about border control on visitors, it says article 3 on my screen. |
| Date | 05:01:14, July 30, 2009 CET | From | Alorian Confederation of Labor | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | OOC: Strange...now its 1 lol but yea i get it The ACL will immediately repeal this article |
| Date | 05:03:36, July 30, 2009 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | The NCP thanks The ACL for negotiating with the NCP for the betterment of the Alorian people. |
| Date | 05:12:41, July 30, 2009 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | The LP cannot support articles 1 and 2 of this bill, for the following reasons: 1) We believe that every foreign national deserves a shot at the Alorian dream. To deny them this privilege, granted to so many of our forefathers, is petty. Plus, they provide cheap labour and are a boon to Aloria's manufacturing sector. As long as they follow Alorian law, the LP believes they're welcome to stay. 2) No sense in having poor people in a rich country subsidizing rich people in a poor country. Aloria should deepen its trade and investment relations and practice even freer commerce with the other countries in order to help them develop. Handing out money only harms their economy and spirit. |
| Date | 05:35:21, July 30, 2009 CET | From | Alorian Confederation of Labor | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | The ACoL puts out this response. 1) While allowing every immigrant would be ideal, it is not pragmatic. Immigrants raise both crime and unemployment, as well as bring down wages for unskilled laborers. 2) While your complaint is valid, this is due to a lack of clearness on the article. Truly the ACoL believes the foreign aid should be spent on investing for industry to help improve the lives of workers in lands abroad. The ACoL looks foward to the LP's response |
| Date | 05:46:59, July 30, 2009 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Bill |
| Message | 1) About crime In the 1980s and 1990s researchers have concluded, or at least have lent support to the conclusion, that immigrants commit proportionately no more than and possibly even fewer crimes than native-born citizens. The General Accounting Office, analyzing FBI records, found that foreign-born individuals accounted for about 19 percent of the total arrests in 1985 in six selected major cities.8 The foreign-born represented 19.6 percent of the aggregate population. While "foreign-born" can mean refer to citizens as well as aliens,9 the study makes an implicit case that immigrant crime is in line with the rest of the country. (http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/crime/toc.html) About unemployment: We conduct a pooled cross-section and time-series analysis of the unemployment rates across ten major industries in the U.S. from 1983 to 1994 to assess the effect of NAFTA and immigration. Our results indicate that the output produced by the industry, unemployment benefit coverage, and interest rates are significant determinants of industry unemployment rates, but union presence does not affect industry unemployment. Both Canadian and Mexican immigrants appear to be complements to the U.S. labor force, with Canadian immigrants highly complementary to American labor. Finally, the Chow test provides no evidence that NAFTA has changed the structure of unemployment determination in these industries.(http://www.springerlink.com/content/837333682851h15g/) 2) Yes, I agree. But industry in Aloria is entirely private and unsubsidised. Surely it is enough to allow them to freely invest wherever they like for these flows of capital to end up in poorer countries, especially due to outsourcing. We don't need taxpayer-funded foreign aid. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 182 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 318 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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