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Bill: Labour reform act 2794

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberty Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2795

Description[?]:

Implements more freedom in labour relations.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:24:09, July 31, 2009 CET
FromNational Conservative Party
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageYes LP we must revert these socialistic, power to the government not the people, ideals.

Date04:41:56, July 31, 2009 CET
FromAlorian Confederation of Labor
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageThe ACoL is opposed to this but is willing to negotiate a compromise.

Date05:48:10, July 31, 2009 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageWe would think that article 4, freeing trade unions from government intervention, would please the ACoL. The LP believes trade unions should create their own rules to decide when to strike, just as companies should be free to fire the workers if they deem their demands are not in their best interests.

Date06:09:41, July 31, 2009 CET
FromAlorian Confederation of Labor
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageArticle 4 is in fact enticing the ACoL. Perhaps Articles 1 and 3 could be changed to more local options if availible?

Date07:16:38, July 31, 2009 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageThe LP is not willing to compromise on these issues. We do not believe government, local or otherwise, should have any say on the worker's salary or hours. We would like the ACoL's vote, but would also understand its reasoned and principled opposition to it.

Date07:43:40, July 31, 2009 CET
FromAlorian Confederation of Labor
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageFair Enough, on taking a second look the ACoL, a simple change of Article 2 to being able to fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike for no reason, or the similar option will simply be enough to gain the vote of the ACoL seeing as minimum wages can in fact be counter productive.

Date12:26:11, July 31, 2009 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Labour reform act 2794
MessageWe believe that firing the worker, for whatever reason, is something to be decided among the employer and the employee, and according to the contract they have among them. The LP wholeheartedly supports the right of employees to strike, but they must do so in full awareness of what this right and responsibility entails. We believe that workers do not have a monopoly on their jobs, or the right to protect them from competition from another worker. If workers choose to strike, they better be sure that no one else wants the job that they don't want in those conditions.

We do not judge, and do not think the state should either, what is reason enough for a worker to go on strike. We think workers can stop for wages, conditions or even lack of candy in the workplace. The negotiation is to happen among only the employer and employee, the state should have no role.

For that reason, we are still not willing to compromise on article 2, but we appreciate the ACoL's input and are sure that its concerns stem from a deep caring, however misguided, for the citizens of Aloria.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 301

no
  

Total Seats: 146

abstain
   

Total Seats: 53


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