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Bill: Basic Welfare Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Drasciian New Left
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2796
Description[?]:
| This bill seeks to offer what we believe is a reasonable minimum on a societal safety net. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state does not provide child benefit.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All veterans shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certain period of time.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:00:49, July 31, 2009 CET | From | Drasciian New Left | To | Debating the Basic Welfare Bill |
| Message | Article 1 is proposed in the belief that children should not be overly punished with a subpar living standard just because their parents are from a low socio-economic background. Whilst it's argued that parents of low wages should not be having children, the children themselves were not consulted and should not be held at fault for this decision. Article 2 provides a safety net for people falling on hard times. Sometimes job loss is no indication of a person's performance or willingness to work. However the time period limit ensures that there is an incentive to work. This should be combined with a government initiative for adult education to make them more qualified so as to seek new employment. Article 3 proposes a two tier pension system. It is very well to speak of responsibility and freedom but people often lack the oversight when they're young, and fifty years later they're elderly and poor, and this puts the government in the impossible position of either watching these people perish without income or straining the state system to take care of them. It is better to mandate them to save now. |
| Date | 12:07:16, July 31, 2009 CET | From | Social Advocates | To | Debating the Basic Welfare Bill |
| Message | Article 2 is supported. But the other two are not. The State should guarantee child benefit to all families, therefore giving all the same advantage in life. Segregating low income famlies isn't fair on them, or on their children. This party proposes that the minimum wage be such that no family should ever not be able to afford the minimum standard of living for them and/or their dependants. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 265 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Bill descriptions must be in English, or at least include a full English translation. Bill titles may appear in a language that is appropriate to the nation and are not required to be translated into English. |
| Random quote: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken |