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Bill: Restoration of the Republic Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2811
Description[?]:
| This bill will: 1) Restore the democratic government structure Lodamun was so famous for. 2) Abolish the monarchy and create a divided government system with an elected Head of State and an appointed Prime Minister. 3) Change the title of the Head of State from "Divine Majesty" to "President." |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Divine Majesty
Current: President of the Commonwealth
Proposed: President
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:23:26, September 01, 2009 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | We cannot ignore the call of our people for reform in this critical issue. Lodamun had always been known for being one of the longest standing democracies in the world. We must return to those values we hold so dearly and show the world that we can change and win no matter the adversities we have to face. It's time for a change, friends. This lackluster monarchy we currently have has done nothing but throw our country into a downward spiral of decadence. It's time for a change. |
| Date | 23:42:12, September 01, 2009 CET | From | Communist Workers Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | I urge all Parties to support this Act. We are denying our people the chance to choose who leads the nation. |
| Date | 04:56:31, September 02, 2009 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | Establishing a Presidency creates confusion over who controls the executive. The current constitutional establishes the HoG as executive. What is the point of the office of President under these proposed changes? |
| Date | 14:01:37, September 02, 2009 CET | From | Country Liberal Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | What powers would the President have? |
| Date | 18:58:09, September 02, 2009 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | Not many. Commander in Chief perhaps? He/she could play a role in foreign affairs. It's up to the individual to decide. |
| Date | 18:59:44, September 02, 2009 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | As for the URP statement: How about democracy, huh? Even if the Office doesn't have many powers, the people should have the opportunity to elect whoever they want. After all, they are the ones who pay for the salary and accommodations of the Head of State. |
| Date | 21:13:26, September 02, 2009 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | What's the point of creating an elected post that serves no purpose? The Liberals are mistaken if they view the establishment of and elections for meaningless positions as an enhancement of democracy. Rather, this reform does create confusion. This is a simple fact highlighted by the Liberals' own statements. "It's up to the individual to decide." - Actually it's not. As I pointed out previously the constitution states that the Prime Minister holds all executive power. It's simply not up to the Liberals to determine what power the "President" has since there are laws already in place. For parties in Lodamun who experienced past Liberal rule, we all know what "it's up to the individual to decide" means. The Liberals will simple decide that the President has absolute power to do whatever he chooses, begin introducing "executive orders" which have not been passed since the ouster of the Liberals and establishment of the monarchy, and involve Lodamun in reckless military and diplomatic ventures. I ask the Liberals to point specific out flaws in the current system if it can. Also, please explain why creating a powerless elected post enhances democracy as you claim. |
| Date | 02:15:11, September 03, 2009 CET | From | Country Liberal Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | We'll abstain for now, but we imagine this will be a big issue in the next parliament. |
| Date | 02:23:16, September 03, 2009 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | What we love about the URP is that they never understand one single word. At no point in time did any of us intended to say that the individual holding the Presidency would decide on his own power. That's absurd. Our current laws provide for very limited, if any, powers whatsoever. What we did mention is that fact that the President would play a role in international affairs and that said person would be the only one to decide to which extent he/she would get involved. As for the flaws, please, listen when we speak. We already mentioned those. Ask for a transcript. You know, there is a saying that goes "You can never have enough democracy." The President would represent our people, our country. Why should our own people not have a say on who represents them and their values? |
| Date | 18:49:39, September 03, 2009 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Republic Act |
| Message | What is the point of having an elected representitive who will only serve to create division within Lodamese foreign policy. Let's face it, we all saw the Liberals trying to run an independent foreign policy when it had ZERO power. What is it going to do if it wins the Presidency and has no power othe rthan to travel around Terra starting fires and claiming to represent Lodamun when in fact he has no power. I suppose the current unelected HoS could do the same thing, but DM Diggory has not conducted an independent foreign policy and any actions he has taken regarding foreign policy has been done in consultation with his Prime Minister and Foreign Minister. My points: The current system of concentrating power in the Prime Minister has finally clarified exactly where executive power lies, while this proposed system reintroduces confusion and the possibility of disjointed and ineffective governance specifically in regards to foreign policy. While any HoS including the current one could abuse his intrinsic diplomatic credentials, the Divine Majesty has never done so and will never do so. There is simply no proof of abuse by DM Diggory while the Liberals have been know to engage in independent foreign policy even when it had no right to do so. Wrapping this issue in "democracy" is brilliant demagoguery, but still does not answer why this system is an improvement. Why is replacing a stable, proven leader with an inefficient system better? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 71 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 129 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy is set in the fictional world of Terra, which mirrors the real world of today and yet is not quite like it. |
| Random quote: As for rape, of course, that is a direct consequence of the capitalist system of oppression. Capitalism relies on fuelling division and resentment to sustain itself, and so it sets men against women, race against race and so on. Men rape women because they are being oppressed by capitalism, so they take it out on women. Under Communism, there will be no rape, because there will be a full and natural harmony and equality between the genders. ~ Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |