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Bill: Education Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Workers Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2812
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National Curriculum
Old value:: invalid choice
Current: There is a National Curriculum which all government schools are obliged to follow; non-government schools are partially exempt.
Proposed: invalid choice
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Current: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Proposed: No forms of direct discipline are allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:30:26, September 03, 2009 CET | From |  Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Detention is not allowed?? Thats pretty dumb. Also this isnt new, your just trying to reverse every bill I put forward. We already agreed udm that work field was the best to do. |
| Date | 15:32:22, September 03, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | also what ever happened to us allowing to debate first? Or because your mad that were working together, which is democratically allowed, not that youd ever understand that word, your not going to do it? |
| Date | 22:07:49, September 03, 2009 CET | From | Democratic Workers Union | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | you pretty much gave up the right to debate a bill, when you said you would never consider passing it. I am pretty pissed off about it and the sheer volume is trying to make up for the lower visibility of each bill. just call off the bloc voting and I will VERY happily debate each bill in turn, even if I'm sure to loose. with regards no detentions; essentially education should be a voluntary act of choice by the student. (this is taking freedom in strange, new places obviously). so punishing people who don't want to be there doesn't make much sense... they should get to choose what they do and do it because they enjoy the subject and because their intrested rather than be told by a teacher who instructs simply to pass tests and plans lessons round chapters in the textbook. if they don't want to learn- give them time and they'll come around- they've been trained up to hate it by the boredom, the discipline and the completely unegaging teaching methods. with really violent cases- your talking something beyond the schools responsibilities, so it doesn't matter either way. |
| Date | 00:38:02, September 04, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | If its beyond schools responsibilities then allowing the teachers to do absolutely nothing is worse then expulsion. Much worse. It means students can even kill teachers without repercussion. Is that what you want? Students who dont enjoy math should be allowed to shoot their teachers? And once you give up your fight to turn our state into a dictatorship with no free market or basic civil rights we'll start talking to you. |
| Date | 00:42:28, September 04, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Not to mention we passed one of your bills before in the past few years. We're just striking down the ones that are stupid, the majority of them. If you stop being so extreme in everything you do we'll start agreeing to more that you propose. |
| Date | 11:18:22, September 04, 2009 CET | From | Democratic Workers Union | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | killing maths teachers? might do the world a favour, lol. no, as in when you've got a kid is THAT messed up that they start wanting to kill or seriously hurt people you have to pull in the police (or people's militia). they need some serious treatment and help for their problems to try and pull them back and rein them in. but these are extremely rare cases- most kids just hate maths... I have always said I am FOR civil rights- the only time I've tried to cut back on them was with gambling and prostitution which aren't insane places to consider pulling them back. |
| Date | 11:48:23, September 04, 2009 CET | From | Democratic Workers Union | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | (religion is the other thing I've been cutting back on in civil rights- but I've never banned it, although I did push it wish the 'no adverts' clause). the 'no free market' policy is really just part of the 'communist package' (but how you propose that I can have a dictatorship without even a police force is completely beyond me! I don't even have courts- so there no show trials (and no death penalty!)) I very firmly believe in a planned economy, but on everything else I am open to comprimise (except admittedly workers rights). I will happily let the issue rest until/ if I ever get a majority. dropping it anymore than that basically means just giving up entirely (for socialism) which is totally pointless from my point of view (and if that is the case- I will just leave you guys to it)... sound fair? |
| Date | 17:12:18, September 04, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | I don't really understand what your trying to propose here. |
| Date | 17:17:04, September 04, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Oh and civil rights of legalization of pot, and civil rights for the free market and people to make a living for themselves without having to live in your 'dream' poverty world, this list is going to go on for a while to.. How do you propose to keep these laws in effect with no police force? |
| Date | 21:05:30, September 05, 2009 CET | From | Democratic Workers Union | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | peoples militia... (bit hard to find the laws to set it up- probably will involve some military reforms...)- will require some kind of courts... (which I hadn't thought of... still difficult and new ideas- so thanks HJP for asking the right questions). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 98 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 652 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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