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Bill: Democratic Reforms
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Workers Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2819
Description[?]:
| New |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:22:09, September 14, 2009 CET | From |  United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | Yes yes yes yes! |
| Date | 19:31:36, September 14, 2009 CET | From | Saridani Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | Yes yes and no, we'd support Torture in extreme circumstances, but not a full ban. |
| Date | 20:07:53, September 14, 2009 CET | From | United Democratic Movement | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | We will still support this bill if torture is kept for extreme conditions. |
| Date | 21:40:39, September 14, 2009 CET | From | Saridani War Party | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | Stupid Stupid Stupid u realize you are only putting our great nation at stake limiting our millitary's potential |
| Date | 21:52:20, September 14, 2009 CET | From | Saridani Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | Au Contraire, by tying the military to a civilian policing role you're weakening the military. The military is for defence, not catching criminals, the two things are two different animals and need to be kept separate. |
| Date | 04:04:24, September 16, 2009 CET | From | Aristocratic Genius Movement | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | abolish article 1 and we will give you complete support Oh Smart Workers Union |
| Date | 17:54:51, September 16, 2009 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it to Military allowed to come in on extreme circumstances and we will support. |
| Date | 19:26:53, September 17, 2009 CET | From | Saridani Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Democratic Reforms |
| Message | Excellent, looks great to me, we've no opposition to the military partaking in MACA. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 408 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 252 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 90 |
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